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  • #31
    Latest update, not much change in track.

    000
    WTNT44 KNHC 240846
    TCDAT4
    HURRICANE IRENE DISCUSSION NUMBER 16
    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092011
    500 AM EDT WED AUG 24 2011
    THE LAST PENETRATION OF THE EYE BY THE AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTERS
    WAS JUST AFTER 0500 UTC...AND THEY FOUND THAT THE CENTRAL PRESSURE
    HAD DROPPED TO 966 MB. THEY ALSO MEASURED 700 MB FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS
    OF 92 KT OUTBOUND IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT. IT IS LIKELY THAT
    HIGHER WINDS WERE OCCURRING OVER THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE
    HURRICANE. OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS..THE SATELLITE PRESENTATION OF
    IRENE HAS BECOME QUITE IMPRESSIVE WITH THE EYE EMBEDDED WITHIN VERY
    COLD CLOUD TOPS. DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM BOTH TAFB AND SAB
    ARE 100 KT. COMBINING THE ABOVE INFORMATION...THE CURRENT
    INTENSITY IS SET CONSERVATIVELY AT 95 KT FOR THIS ADVISORY. ANOTHER
    HURRICANE HUNTER MISSION IS SCHEDULED FOR 1200 UTC TO MEASURE THE
    INTENSITY OF THE HURRICANE. ALTHOUGH THE NUMERICAL GUIDANCE
    INDICATES SOME SOUTH-SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR OVER THE AREA...THIS SHEAR
    IS NOT EXPECTED TO PREVENT FURTHER STRENGTHENING AND IT SEEMS
    HIGHLY LIKELY THAT IRENE WILL INTENSIFY TO CATEGORY 3 STATUS LATER
    TODAY. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH COULD OCCUR IN 1 TO 2 DAYS
    DUE TO EYEWALL REPLACEMENTS. IN FACT...THE UW-CIMSS OBJECTIVE
    TECHNIQUE SHOWS A CONSIDERABLY HIGHER THAN CLIMATOLOGICAL
    PROBABILITY OF SECONDARY EYEWALL FORMATION WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS.
    THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST IS CLOSE TO THE NUMERICAL CONSENSUS
    AND LIES BETWEEN THE GFDL/HWRF MODELS AND THE LGEM GUIDANCE.
    SATELLITE ANIMATION AND CENTER FIXES SHOW THAT THE EYE OF IRENE HAS
    BEEN WOBBLING BETWEEN A WEST AND NORTHWEST HEADING OVER THE PAST
    SEVERAL HOURS. SMOOTHING THROUGH THESE WOBBLES YIELDS A MORE
    REPRESENTATIVE MOTION OF ABOUT 295/8. THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE CHANGE
    TO THE TRACK FORECAST REASONING FROM THE PAST FEW ADVISORIES. OVER
    THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...THE HURRICANE IS EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY
    TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AND NORTH AS IT MOVES THROUGH A
    PRONOUNCED WEAKNESS IN THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE. AROUND 72 HOURS...A
    SHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVING THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES SHOULD BEGIN TO
    INDUCE AT LEAST A SLIGHT TURN TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHEAST WITH SOME
    ACCELERATION AFTERWARDS. THE DYNAMICAL TRACK MODEL CONSENSUS
    HAS...AGAIN...SHIFTED A LITTLE TO THE EAST FROM THE PREVIOUS
    PACKAGE. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS NOT SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT FROM
    THE PREVIOUS ONE AND LIES A LITTLE TO THE LEFT OF THE CONSENSUS.
    USERS ARE REMINDED THAT SIGNIFICANT ERRORS ARE POSSIBLE WITH
    FORECASTS AT LONGER LEAD TIMES...SO ONE SHOULD NOT FOCUS ON THE
    EXACT FORECAST POSITIONS AT 96 AND 120 HOURS.

    FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
    INIT 24/0900Z 21.6N 72.9W 95 KT 110 MPH
    12H 24/1800Z 22.5N 74.1W 105 KT 120 MPH
    24H 25/0600Z 24.1N 75.4W 110 KT 125 MPH
    36H 25/1800Z 25.8N 76.6W 110 KT 125 MPH
    48H 26/0600Z 27.7N 77.0W 110 KT 125 MPH
    72H 27/0600Z 32.0N 76.8W 105 KT 120 MPH
    96H 28/0600Z 36.5N 75.0W 90 KT 105 MPH
    120H 29/0600Z 42.0N 71.5W 70 KT 80 MPH...INLAND
    $$

    FORECASTER PASCH/KIMBERLAIN


    Link to the cone:
    ---------------
    HV FN ES 73!
    http://skattagun.blogspot.com
    "3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
    --Spock
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    • #32
      Irene is still out there, and is the biggest threat
      !!!!AND!!!!

      We need to keep an eye on this system too:
      "
      2. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUE TO SHOW SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION IN
      ASSOCIATION WITH AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 300 MILES
      SOUTHWEST OF THE SOUTHERN CAPE VERDE ISLANDS. ENVIRONMENTAL
      CONDITIONS APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A TROPICAL
      DEPRESSION...AND THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF
      BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES
      WESTWARD OR WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH.

      "
      ---------------
      HV FN ES 73!
      http://skattagun.blogspot.com
      "3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
      --Spock
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      • #33
        Here we go folks! I hope all you Carolinians are buckled down!
        "
        THE INITIAL MOTION IS NOW 360/12. IRENE IS MOVING THROUGH A WEAKNESS AT THE WESTERN END OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE...AND IT SHOULD RECURVE INTO THE WESTERLIES DURING THE FORECAST PERIOD. THE TRACK GUIDANCE IS TIGHTLY CLUSTERED AROUND A NORTHWARD MOTION DURING THE FIRST 24 HR...FOLLOWED BY A TURN TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHEAST. THE NEW FORECAST TRACK CALLS FOR IRENE TO MAKE LANDFALL ALONG THE NORTH CAROLINA OUTER BANKS IN ABOUT 36 HR...THEN PASS NEAR THE COAST OF THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES BEFORE MAKING LANDFALL IN NEW ENGLAND IN ROUGHLY 60 HOURS. THERE HAS BEEN NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE TRACK GUIDANCE SINCE THE LAST ADVISORY... AND WHILE THE FORECAST TRACK HAS BEEN ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST THIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A NOISE-LEVEL CHANGE. AFTER LANDFALL... IRENE SHOULD MERGE WITH THE CORE OF THE WESTERLIES AND TURN NORTHEASTWARD WITH ACCELERATION.
        "
        Track:
        ---------------
        HV FN ES 73!
        http://skattagun.blogspot.com
        "3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
        --Spock
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        • #34
          Almost ashore! check out the charts, as of 01:00 EDT 8/27



          thankfully, while she's big, she's weakened a little bit!
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          HV FN ES 73!
          http://skattagun.blogspot.com
          "3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
          --Spock
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          • #35
            Irene is still a cat 1 storm!
            wow!
            Check out this statement from NOAA:

            MORE SO THAN WITH MOST STORMS...THE WINDS WITH IRENE INCREASE
            SHARPLY WITH HEIGHT ABOVE THE SURFACE. AS IRENE MOVES THROUGH
            AREAS WITH HIGH-RISE STRUCTURES...THESE STRUCTURES WILL EXPERIENCE
            WINDS SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER THAN INDICATED BY THE ADVISORY
            INTENSITY. WINDS AT THE 30-STORY LEVEL WILL LIKELY BE 20 PERCENT
            HIGHER THAN AT THE SURFACE...AND WINDS 80-100 STORIES UP COULD BE
            ABOUT 30 PERCENT HIGHER THAN AT THE SURFACE.
            Nice, eh?
            ---------------
            HV FN ES 73!
            http://skattagun.blogspot.com
            "3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
            --Spock
            ---------------

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            • #36
              Hazardous weather outlook for NYC/area around:
              HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
              NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
              827 PM EDT SAT AUG 27 2011

              CTZ005-009-NJZ004-006-103>108-NYZ069>075-078>081-176>179-290030-
              NORTHERN FAIRFIELD-SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD-EASTERN PASSAIC-HUDSON-
              WESTERN BERGEN-EASTERN BERGEN-WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-
              WESTERN UNION-EASTERN UNION-ROCKLAND-NORTHERN WESTCHESTER-
              SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER-NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-
              RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-
              NORTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHWESTERN SUFFOLK-SOUTHEASTERN SUFFOLK-
              NORTHERN QUEENS-NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-SOUTHERN NASSAU-
              827 PM EDT SAT AUG 27 2011

              ...TORNADO WATCH 812 IN EFFECT UNTIL 5 AM EDT SUNDAY...
              ...FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT THROUGH LATE SUNDAY NIGHT...
              ...HURRICANE WARNING IN EFFECT...

              THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR SOUTHERN
              CONNECTICUT...NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY AND SOUTHEAST NEW YORK.

              .DAY ONE...TONIGHT.

              PLEASE LISTEN TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO OR GO TO WEATHER.GOV ON THE
              INTERNET FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE FOLLOWING HAZARDS.

              TORNADO WATCH.
              FLOOD WATCH.
              HURRICANE WARNING.

              .DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

              PLEASE LISTEN TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO OR GO TO WEATHER.GOV ON THE
              INTERNET FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE FOLLOWING HAZARDS.

              FLOOD WATCH.
              HURRICANE WARNING.

              .SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

              WEATHER SPOTTERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO REPORT SIGNIFICANT WEATHER
              CONDITIONS ACCORDING TO STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.

              &&

              THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK PROVIDES A SUMMARY OF POTENTIAL
              WIDESPREAD HAZARDOUS WEATHER EVENTS THAT MAY REACH NWS WARNING
              CRITERIA. MOST LONG FUSED NWS WATCHES...WARNINGS AND ADVISORIES IN
              EFFECT ARE HIGHLIGHTED.

              PLEASE REFER TO THE LATEST NWS FORECASTS FOR WEATHER NOT MEETING NWS
              WARNING CRITERIA.

              $$
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              HV FN ES 73!
              http://skattagun.blogspot.com
              "3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
              --Spock
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              • #37


                No references in original link besides "underground weather stations."

                Grand58742
                Last edited by Grand58742; 08-27-2011, 11:51 PM. Reason: Changed link to a more reliable source than a blogger for weather info
                -=> Rmplstlskn <=-

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by qrprat77 View Post
                  Hazardous weather outlook for NYC/area around:
                  qrprat77,

                  Kudo's to you for keeping on top of the weather alerts in this thread. We all appreciate the time you are taking to post them up so those in the path can be informed about what's going on.

                  Grand
                  Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.

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                  • #39
                    no prob guys, I'm just a jerk with a bum tooth.

                    Check out the latest satellite fotos:



                    looks like Jose is going to be a 'fish storm'. Spot #1 is very interesting.
                    lots of damage still going on I'm sure. It would be nice to see some pics from the area, I understand 4,000,000 are without power!
                    ---------------
                    HV FN ES 73!
                    http://skattagun.blogspot.com
                    "3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
                    --Spock
                    ---------------

                    Comment


                    • #40
                      Originally posted by qrprat77 View Post
                      no prob guys, I'm just a jerk with a bum tooth.

                      Check out the latest satellite fotos:



                      looks like Jose is going to be a 'fish storm'. Spot #1 is very interesting.
                      lots of damage still going on I'm sure. It would be nice to see some pics from the area, I understand 4,000,000 are without power!
                      Funny because last night, they said Jose (which wasn't Jose at the time) had a zero percent chance of becoming a tropical storm. Suddenly 12 hours later it's upgraded.

                      You're right, that #1 looks like if could get pretty mean if it gets its act together.
                      Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.

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                      • #41
                        Jose looks much higher up in the Atlantic. I thought these things were only a tropical/warmer area type deal?

                        Come on guys, fess up- was Al Gore right? LOL
                        Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"

                        Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

                        Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

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                        • #42
                          Just so Jose doesn't feel left out, here's the latest discussion:

                          000
                          WTNT41 KNHC 282043
                          TCDAT1
                          TROPICAL STORM JOSE DISCUSSION NUMBER 3
                          NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112011
                          500 PM AST SUN AUG 28 2011
                          JOSE REMAINS A SMALL AND STRONGLY SHEARED TROPICAL CYCLONE...
                          ALTHOUGH DEEP CONVECTION HAS BEEN A LITTLE STRONGER AND MORE
                          PERSISTENT DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS. A 1334 UTC ASCAT PASS SHOWED
                          A COUPLE OF UNCONTAMINATED WINDS OF ABOVE 35 KT. ALSO...WIND GUSTS
                          IN EXCESS OF 50 KT HAVE BEEN REPORTED DURING THE PAST HOUR ON
                          BERMUDA AND ALSO BY A SHIP LOCATED ABOUT 30 NMI NORTH OF BERMUDA.
                          GIVEN THE COARSE RESOLUTION OF ASCAT DATA AND THE SMALL SIZE OF THE
                          CYCLONE...THE COMBINATION OF THESE DATA SUPPORT AN INITIAL
                          INTENSITY OF 40 KT. ASIDE FROM THE EXTREMELY STRONG UPPER-LEVEL
                          EASTERLY TO SOUTHEASTERLY SHEAR FORECAST...MODEL GUIDANCE SHOWS THE
                          CIRCULATION OF JOSE QUICKLY BECOMING DEFORMED AND DISSIPATING IN A
                          DAY OR SO. THE OFFICIAL NHC FORECAST IS SIMILAR TO PREVIOUS ONE AND
                          INDICATES DISSIPATION WITHIN 36 HOURS.
                          JOSE APPEARS TO BE MOVING A LITTLE FASTER THAN BEFORE...AND THE
                          INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS NOW 360/14. THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGE TO
                          THE PREVIOUS FORECAST REASONING REGARDING THE TRACK. JOSE SHOULD
                          BEGIN TO ACCELERATE TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHEAST PRIOR TO DISSIPATION
                          AS IT MOVES ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF A LOW-/MID-LEVEL RIDGE SITUATED
                          OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC.
                          FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
                          INIT 28/2100Z 33.2N 65.7W 40 KT 45 MPH
                          12H 29/0600Z 35.7N 65.3W 35 KT 40 MPH
                          24H 29/1800Z 39.7N 63.7W 30 KT 35 MPH
                          36H 30/0600Z...DISSIPATED
                          $$
                          FORECASTER KIMBERLAIN/STEWART



                          the map of Jose!

                          ---------------
                          HV FN ES 73!
                          http://skattagun.blogspot.com
                          "3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
                          --Spock
                          ---------------

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by 1Admin View Post
                            Jose looks much higher up in the Atlantic.
                            I think we need to keep an eye on Jose. He could sneak into the US from the south.


                            yuk, yuk, yuk
                            Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.

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                            • #44
                              (*Grins at Grand*)

                              What we really need to be thinking about is Number 12, yep, that's right, we have a TD#12 in warm water under favorable conditions:



                              The interesting tidbits from the discussion:

                              THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN THE FAR EASTERN ATLANTIC TO THE SOUTH OF
                              THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS HAS GAINED SUFFICIENT CONVECTIVE
                              ORGANIZATION TO BE CLASSIFIED AS A TROPICAL DEPRESSION. A CURVED
                              CONVECTIVE BAND WRAPS AROUND THE WESTERN AND SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE
                              SYSTEM AND THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS SET TO 30 KT BASED ON THE 06Z
                              DVORAK CLASSIFICATION FROM TAFB. THE DEPRESSION IS CURRENTLY IN AN
                              EASTERLY SHEAR ENVIRONMENT SITUATED TO THE SOUTH OF AN UPPER-LEVEL
                              RIDGE OVER THE EASTERN ATLANTIC. SOME EASTERLY SHEAR IS EXPECTED TO
                              PERSIST...BUT OTHERWISE THE ENVIRONMENT SHOULD BE CONDUCIVE FOR
                              STRENGTHENING THROUGH THE PERIOD. THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST
                              SHOWS SLOW STRENGTHENING IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE SHIPS...GFDL...
                              AND HWRF MODELS THROUGH 48 HOURS. AFTER THAT TIME THE CYCLONE SHOULD
                              STRENGTHEN A LITTLE MORE QUICKLY AS IT MOVES OVER PROGRESSIVELY
                              HIGHER OCEAN HEAT CONTENT. AT DAYS 3 THROUGH 5 THE NHC FORECAST IS
                              CLOSEST TO BUT A LITTLE BELOW THE HWRF MODEL. THE SHIPS FORECAST
                              LATE IN THE PERIOD APPEARS TOO LOW DUE TO STRONG SOUTHERLY SHEAR
                              IMPARTED BY THE TROPICAL CYCLONE VORTEX IN THE GFS MODEL FIELDS...
                              WHICH IS DISPLACED TO THE SOUTH AND EAST OF THE OFFICIAL TRACK.
                              ---------------
                              HV FN ES 73!
                              http://skattagun.blogspot.com
                              "3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
                              --Spock
                              ---------------

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                              • #45
                                #12 is still a TD, 6-12 hours out from being a storm:
                                THE EROSION OF CONVECTIVE BANDING FEATURES HAS LIKELY BEEN DUE A
                                NARROW INTRUSION OF DRY AIR COMING IN THE FROM THE NORTHEAST.
                                HOWEVER...ALL AVAILABLE DIAGNOSTIC AND MODEL FORECAST DATA INDICATE
                                THAT THE CYCLONE IS SURROUNDED BY VERY MOIST MID-LEVEL AIR WITH
                                HUMIDITY VALUES OF 70 PERCENT OR HIGHER...WHICH SHOULD ALLOW FOR
                                DEEP CONVECTION TO RECOVER LATER TONIGHT AND FOR THE SYSTEM TO
                                REACH TROPICAL STORM STATUS WITHIN THE NEXT 6-12 HOURS. MODERATE
                                NORTHEASTERLY SHEAR IS ALSO FORECAST TO AFFECT THE CYCLONE FOR THE
                                NEXT 24 HOURS OR SO...WHICH SHOULD INHIBIT ANY RAPID DEVELOPMENT.
                                AFTER THAT...HOWEVER...THE SHEAR IS EXPECTED TO SHARPLY DECREASE...
                                AND AN UPPER-LEVEL ANTICYCLONE IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP OVER THE
                                SURFACE CIRCULATION. THIS IMPROVEMENT IN THE VENTILATION PROCESS
                                SHOULD ALLOW FOR THE CYCLONE TO AT LEAST STEADILY INTENSIFY AND
                                BECOME A HURRICANE IN 48-72 HOURS AS SUGGESTED BY THE SHIPS...
                                LGEM...HWRF...AND GFDL MODELS.
                                5-day Map.

                                Still a lot to be seen with this storm!
                                ---------------
                                HV FN ES 73!
                                http://skattagun.blogspot.com
                                "3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
                                --Spock
                                ---------------

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