Hard Red Winter Wheat

Well, I do not know what zip code that is but hard red wheat does not grow everywhere. I am from North Dakota originally and we grew boat loads up there and as long as you knew a farmer who was growing it and you caught him before he sold it I don't see why not.

[Rmplstlskn]

Box says Homestyle Corn and Grain Grinder. Its a Cast Iron metal burr type, wanted something inexpensive to get started with. Bought it at a time when wifey wasn't fully onboard yet.

It looks like you have one of these....


You will only get corn MEAL and very coarse flour out of that mill... It will take a be-zillion runs through that griner to get baking flour consistency...

That mill should only be for cornbread and stuff, or for truly the LAST option...

You need these...


and this... One for power, one when no power...


You have to have the right tools for the job... Better to find out now then later when you need it...

Rmpl

The best I could do was get the wheat to come out with the consistency of corn meal. Gave it a go anyway, made a very nice bread

[hagbard]

[QUOTE=Klayton;10016]HMMM, maybe my research is different then yours?

In Accordance With:
Irving, William; Boswell, Tim; Dlawer, Ala'Aldeen (2005). "Section C: Human pathogens: bacteria; C14: Clostridia". Instant Notes: Medical Microbiology. New York: Taylor & Francis. p. 160. ISBN 978-1859962541. http://books.google.com/?id=pg9HinBo-4cC.

[U][B][COLOR="red"]"Botulinum toxin is denatured at temperatures greater than 60

[Tofu]

Lacey: How far are ya from OKC? It might be worth your while to make a road trip.

Excellent suggestion Patriotic Sheepdog .86 a pound is much cheaper than what I reccomended.

[Patriotic Sheepdog]

Where do you get wheat berries for those of us who don't live near LDS?

Try here http://www.jrhenterprises.com/produc...&categoryId=14

Support the sponsor of the board. That is a year supply, 315 lbs, for $269.95

[Tofu]

You can try feed stores, but you have to be careful you getting nothing but wheat. They usually mix it with other things for feed purposes. There are other sources out there (Blue Bird Grains), but you have to pay for the shipping.

[Lacey]

Where do you get wheat berries for those of us who don't live near LDS?

[Klayton]

Oh, there is an old crime story of the Mrs using botulinum to "unknowingly" kill her husband... HEHE man do I love science! :)

[Klayton]

HMMM, maybe my research is different then yours?

In Accordance With:
Irving, William; Boswell, Tim; Dlawer, Ala'Aldeen (2005). "Section C: Human pathogens: bacteria; C14: Clostridia". Instant Notes: Medical Microbiology. New York: Taylor & Francis. p. 160. ISBN 978-1859962541. http://books.google.com/?id=pg9HinBo-4cC.

[U][B][COLOR="red"]"Botulinum toxin is denatured at temperatures greater than 60

[hagbard]

That works before the spores release their toxin. If the bot bacteria is killed before you store, all is good. But if you store your food without destroying the bot, then its too late. So, you're still exposed to the poison even if you make your wheat into bread.

[Klayton]

LOL hagbard

it says before eating, and since the normal botulinum hazard item is something you can boil, the safety statement says boil, for us preppers, BAKING your bread should wipe out any possible botulinum toxins...

:)

[hagbard]

Boil and can your wheat? ;)


BTW, some interesting info on storing wheat from the Utah State University:

http://extension.usu.edu/files/publications/publication/FN-371.pdf

[Klayton]

@hagbard (well @everybody actually, hehe)

Most people think botulism is a food-borne illness, but there are actually three different types of botulism. There is food-borne botulism that is usually caused by improperly canned foods, infant botulism and wound botulism. All three types of botulism are easily prevented.

Avoid feeding honey to infants younger than 12 months old to prevent infant botulism. Honey can contain spores of Clostridium botulinum. When given to an infant under 12 months of age, the spores stay in the intestines where they give off toxins and cause botulism.

Prevent wound botulism by caring properly for wounds. Wound botulism occurs when an open wound becomes infected with Clostridium botulinum, which is naturally occurring in soil. If you have a wound, wash it well with soap and water, use an antibiotic ointment such as Bacitracin and cover it with a bandage. If the wound appears to be infected, see your doctor immediately.

Can your low-acid garden produce using a pressure canner, not a water-bath canner. Follow only tested recipes in home-canning manuals such as the Ball Blue Book of Home Canning, and follow the directions to the letter. Low-acid foods, such as green beans, beets and squash offer the perfect breeding ground for Clostridium botulinum when improperly canned.

Boil home-canned foods for at least 10 minutes before eating to kill any botulism toxins that may be present
Home-canning is a lost art that is enjoying a resurgence as more people start home gardens. While home-canned goods are a leading cause of foodborne botulism, done properly, home-canning provides excellent, wholesome nutrition. To learn more about proper home-canning techniques, visit the National Center for Home Food Preservation's (NCHFP) website. The NCHFP offers an online home-canning safety course.

~~hope this helps~~
~Klayton

[hagbard]

Well, here's the problem with that. Bot doesn't make its presence known...its tasteless, orderless and shows no visual signs. Haven't heard of anyone getting bot from grain, but then, how long have people been putting grain in mylar bags and tossing in oxygen absorbers?

At this point, I think I'll just store wheat and corn in plastic buckets and not worry about how long it will last, it will likely last ten years just like that. Not sure what'd do about oats.