Your thoughts on the election period

[JUSTIFIED]

I watched this video and fact checked it. It's all true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p0RkWqyn1y4

America is going broke no matter who gets elected. We can't even afford social security...by itself. That doesn't even count the military or tons of other government programs. Vote for whoever you want, it doesn't matter.

I agree. I think we're past the point of no return. There might be some temporary relief in some areas but we're still going to pay the piper for decades of politicians abusing our government and too many citizens too lazy to pay attention.

[Klayton]

Will your link isnt working for me...

Anybody else having problems getting it to work?

[JUSTIFIED]

Will your link isnt working for me...

Anybody else having problems getting it to work?

Didn't work for me. I think we need a wind talker...chuckle...

[SCinPNW]

I believe that no matter who gets in office that our economy is going to crash. Not necessarily a fast overnight crash, but the crash/recession we are experiencing now will be accelerated after the election no matter who gets into office. Every day I learn/read more and become more concerned about everything which prompts me to pray more and to prepare more. One of the things I have been focused on is finding and purchasing our homestead property before January. I looked at a 50 acre piece last month but it was too expensive and not quite right for us. I am going this week to look at another piece that looks very promising.

Just my $.02. Thanks for starting this thread.

SC

[tired-medic]

I feel there is so much apathy and indifference most folks will do nothing either way. Too many Americans have no clue about government or events to react to any outcome.

[tarheelsman71]

I kinda wish that there was no electoral college, and that in order to vote, you have to pass a test to even receive your voter registration card. similar to taking a test before you can drive. The test would be exactly what naturalized citizens had to take to become citizens of this greatest of ALL countries. I was looking at the questions on that test, and unfortunately it is WAY harder than what my children are being taught in the school system.

[JUSTIFIED]

I kinda wish that there was no electoral college, and that in order to vote, you have to pass a test to even receive your voter registration card. similar to taking a test before you can drive. The test would be exactly what naturalized citizens had to take to become citizens of this greatest of ALL countries. I was looking at the questions on that test, and unfortunately it is WAY harder than what my children are being taught in the school system.

tarheelsman I agree with you on the test. It would significantly shrink the voter pool.

I don't agree with you regarding the electoral college. Without it, the smaller states like Alaska, Delaware, Idaho, Maine, etc....would be disproportionately represented in the Presidential election.

[qrprat77]

If...

... there's an election:http://apnews.myway.com/article/20121030/DA2839L80.html

Q. Could the Nov. 6 election be changed?A. Yes, but it's highly unlikely, and it's not up to the president. Congress sets the date for the presidential election - the Tuesday after the first Monday in November, every fourth year. Congress could act within the next week to change the date, but that would be tough because lawmakers are on recess and back home in their districts campaigning for re-election. Plus, it's likely that would mean changing the date for the entire country, not just those affected by the storm. What's more, Congress only selects the date for federal races, so changing the date would wreak havoc for state and local elections also scheduled for Nov. 6. States might have to hold two separate days of voting, which could bust state budgets.

That was a positive article. Here's a more telling one: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...020.html?hp=l4 [quote] [b]The Federal Emergency Management Agency is preparing for Hurricane Sandy to disrupt next week

[tarheelsman71]

tarheelsman I agree with you on the test. It would significantly shrink the voter pool.

I don't agree with you regarding the electoral college. Without it, the smaller states like Alaska, Delaware, Idaho, Maine, etc....would be disproportionately represented in the Presidential election.

I think when you vote for a president of the United States, what state you are from should have NO bearing on the FEDERAL election. Your Vote should count and be state-less. The Popular vote shouldn't determine which state sides with which candidate. Electoral College was established mostly to have intelligent voters deciding the outcome for an illiterate demographic. While we still have certain areas with dummies, by and large everyone can read and write. When the electoral college was established less than 10% of the population could read.

[tarheelsman71]

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/electors.html#selection

And lets be clear here about the Electors. They are people that are selected at their parties convention for service and recognition. Really....so let see I work for Romney, I do a great job, I am rewarded with getting to be an elector. Really ... I wonder who I am gonna vote for. But if my State has more Electors voting for Obama, then my vote wouldnt even count anyway.

There are 538 Electors, that are getting a bonus for all the hard work they have done, and they speak for the nation. So in a sense the election is not in the hands of "We the People." It is in the hands of wantabee politicians. In my opinion, if you want to keep this ridiculous electoral college, then let every vote of the electors count, regardless of state. If NC has 15 Electors and 10 of them vote for Obama, and 5 of them vote for Romney, why should Obama "win the state," and the 15 votes. He didnt get 15 votes, but by the present rule of the election he does.

I will vote as I know it to be my civic duty, and I bring my kids with me when I do. But for the life of me I cant seem to find any Silver Lining in respect to the Electoral College. When the masses were mostly under educated and would have been impossible to actually have a popular vote due to lack of technology and distances required to vote, I get it. But today...the electoral college should be removed for being the antiquated system that it is.

[Hawkeye]

Without the electoral college, large population centers such as NYC, LA, Chicago, etc..... would decide the elections. Folks in smaller cities/states would be powerless when it came to elections. You would have a Democracy, and that is something that the Founding Fathers abhored and something we do NOT want.

[Klayton]

Without the electoral college, large population centers such as NYC, LA, Chicago, etc..... would decide the elections. Folks in smaller cities/states would be powerless when it came to elections. You would have a Democracy, and that is something that the Founding Fathers abhored and something we do NOT want.

Exactly, unless you want a full fledged Democrat run every election, don't get rid of the electoral. Even in my red state of Texas, Austin is full fledged liberals (Democrats), Dallas a close second, and San Antonio is getting more and more democrat every year. I can actually see Texas turning blue before my lifespan ends. And that truly saddens me...

[JUSTIFIED]

http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...html#selection

And lets be clear here about the Electors. They are people that are selected at their parties convention for service and recognition. Really....so let see I work for Romney, I do a great job, I am rewarded with getting to be an elector. Really ... I wonder who I am gonna vote for. But if my State has more Electors voting for Obama, then my vote wouldnt even count anyway.

There are 538 Electors, that are getting a bonus for all the hard work they have done, and they speak for the nation. So in a sense the election is not in the hands of "We the People." It is in the hands of wantabee politicians. In my opinion, if you want to keep this ridiculous electoral college, then let every vote of the electors count, regardless of state. If NC has 15 Electors and 10 of them vote for Obama, and 5 of them vote for Romney, why should Obama "win the state," and the 15 votes. He didnt get 15 votes, but by the present rule of the election he does.

I will vote as I know it to be my civic duty, and I bring my kids with me when I do. But for the life of me I cant seem to find any Silver Lining in respect to the Electoral College. When the masses were mostly under educated and would have been impossible to actually have a popular vote due to lack of technology and distances required to vote, I get it. But today...the electoral college should be removed for being the antiquated system that it is.

I read your link and you make a good point tarheelsman. The election should be strictly by the vote of the people...even the ignorant ones. I'd not really given any thought to how the winner take all in some states under the electoral college rules really takes away from the true vote of the people. You're catching me at a time when I'm disgusted with both major parties and quite frankly will not support a republican candidate ever again in a Presidential election unless it is one that I'm convinced espouses true constitutional conservative values, and their record supports it. I almost wrote in my vote for Baldwin in the 08 election. Considering the negative direction the country is headed in I suspect I may be writing in my vote from now on.

[All Talk]

The electoral college also serves to quarantine vote fraud. For example, Illinois is going to Obama, period. All the additional imaginary votes ginned up in chicago won't add anything more to his column on Nov 6th.

Imagine a very close election like Florida inb 2000. Now every vote, everywhere, would have to be challenged if we went with a national direct vote.

No thanks.

[tarheelsman71]

I imagine a close election across the whole country. My biggest beef is that Illinois will definitely side with Obama, but not completely. 20 Electors will decide Illinois, and I cant think that the republicans selected people to vote FOR obama. Even if the vote goes 19-1, then that 1 vote should actually go to Romney, even if the the state does goto Obama.

As for the bigger states dictating things...They already do. How many times have you heard the pundits talking about .... "What will Idaho do?" They dont care about the 4 electors from that state, but I would say that 1.5 mil votes could swing a vote one way or another.

As an IT guy...the Election could be swindle proof. With encryption, certificates, etc. you could do it online and have the results be 99% effective out the gate. and that is much better than we can expect next tuesday.