here in Com Kanada 5-0 sutures are 200.00 for 12! kwickclot is nowhere to be found. no x mil med kits
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Obviously your kit is for the very well trained and not for some of the others who are mabye a bit more on the lay side or with basic first aid skills. I have to admit that I have little to no dental kit at this point. Some of the others who are just gettong started may not even know what to use some of your supplies for. I do recommend that even if someone doesn't know how to use a blood pressure cuff and stethescope that they have one in their kit. (you never know when you may run into someone who can). Basic vital skills are very good to learn.
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A few itemsthat might be helpful.
instant cold packs- great for compresses, can really help slow superficial bleeding/ooze- but do not use to the point of frost bite -remember that ice could be a luxury item
instant hot packs- hypothermia situtations, perfusion situations (ex folks with Raynaud's)
polysporin(otc), plain bacitracin(otc) and bactroban (Rx only) all topical antibiotics- good for when you are treating people to who may be sensitive to neosporin or the neomycin in triple antibiotic. neomycin allergy is much more common than many people know and reactions range from a blistering contact allergy similar to poison ivy to anaphylactic shock. so neosporin is NOT for every cut every time!
Benadryl liquid is good to titrate the dose to your particular victim. kids need lower dose and some adults become groggy to the point of incapacitation. good to think about- you don't want to fall alseep on the job in PAW. I use the kids dose for myself.
Syringes are like flashlight knives and guns- you cannot have too many. I've used big syringes not only to administer injectable meds but also oral meds, oral honey sublingually to a diabetic, small amounts of gatorade when no IV was available, pediatric meds, to irrigate wounds, clean equipment, suck up certain spills, and I remember once using a large one to suck a lawn mower gas tank dry when somehow water leaked into the gas tank and to irrigate the eye of my rottweiler who had conjunctivitis. A variety of sizes are good to have.
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More stuff:
infant nasal suction bulbs (the ones for medical use are by far better than otc), but if that's what you can get, by all means
It would be nice to have a surgical instrument kit with instruments sterilized and packaged in sterile pouches. Likely in PAW, nothing will be sterile, but as sterile or " Clean Contaminated would be better" Field surgical kits are great on the battlefield where one would expect to be transported to a medical unit after. That might not be the case after the fan splatter. approaching things as sterile as possible is important especially then as IV antibiotics may not be readily available. Any body figured out the best PAW campfire style autoclave?
I'd keep honey and oral rehydration solution close to or location listed in the medical kit for dehydration or hypoglycemia- remembering that glucose can be diredctly absorbrd through the mouth in the absense of an IV
having a lighter nearby as a source for a hot knife cautery may be helpful
Large clean garbage bags make great makeshift personal protection as well as a place to contain used supplies
sharps container- puncture resistant
bed pan urinal and emesis basin at your BOL
Zinc oxide paste- diaper rash, chaffing, even sunscreen. also helpful for intertrigo (breakdown of the skin in the creases such as under breast or in the groin). Intertrigo may be reallly prevalent in a southern grid down situation with no ac.
Hydrocortisone cream or higher strenth corticosteroids for eczema, burns , rashes, seborrhea, poison ivy, plant contact allergies, neosporin related rash bug bites
pediatric versions of otc meds
glycerin suppositries for constipation
mineral oil for skin moisterizer and a variety of uses
more vaseline than you think you'll need- can be used for lips, chaffing, lubricant on inanimate objects, can be placed on cotton balls to be used as a fire starter
OTC ant fungal anti yeast cream EX lamisil and clotrimazole- for ring worm jock itch and rip roaring athlete's feet. Hot feet in boots can be really problematic. If the skin between the toes does start to break down it could lead to cellulitis
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Great additions PrepperGirl!
As for skills... I have a GENERAL understanding, but I am NOT a medical professional or EMT, but I work at a University medical facility and I am trying to bring out the survivalist-minded nurse or doctor with hints in conversations... My goal is to join up with a good nurse or trama doctor... I stock stuff for that end goal...-=> Rmplstlskn <=-
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Another thought is that prevention is the best cure to many medical situations currently. It will be even more impoert in PAW. I think there could be an entire thread devoted to PAW safety tips. EX avoiding infection in the first place and other suggestions like "don't get scoped" (ie, hit in the eye/face with your rifle or shotgun scope sometimes causing lacerations requiring stitches-thankfully not a personal experience, but has been known to happen to even experienced shooters who were excited or using an unfamiliar weapon) Whatdya think?
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Most of the non-expiration items (bandages, etc...) I got in the 90's when "Preparedness expo's" were a big thing... It was also before Clinton and DoD stopped dumping alot of that stuff into the surplus market. The only person anywhere I have seen carry a "loaded" SF Pack is JRH Enterprises (site owner). I also bought quite a bit of stuff from JRH when he was a Florida resident and hit the shows I hit...Originally posted by boltgun308 View PostRmplstlskn,
Where are you buying your supplies from?
You would have a VERY tough time finding some of this stuff now... But civilian medical stuff is FIRST RATE, just expensive. Not in CAMO or OD color either... LOL!
Everytime I go to the supermarket or drug store, I look for discount and clearance medical supplies. I have found a lot of nice bandages that way...
The IV stuff, sutures and such are a lot tougher to get, almost impossible, unless you know someone "in the biz."
Vet supplies are a GREAT option. Lots of online vet sites sell all kind of medical supplies useful to a survivalist.-=> Rmplstlskn <=-
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4x4's, about 10,000 of them. You'll use up more than you can possibly imagine cleaning and dressing wounds. Sellers on Ebay will sell them by the case fairly inexpensive.
Quality tape en mass also.
3 or 4 gallons of betadine. Buy that or the generic from places like Jeffers Vet supply and save big time.
Saline solution for contacts- non detergent just straight saline is useful for irrigating small wounds. I've taken care of a few bad cuts and misc. things where going to the hospital wasn't an option, sterile saline for contact lenses worked well for irrigation.Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"
Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"
Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"
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Hizwhowhats?Originally posted by Preppergirl View PostHibiclens would be helpful for the betadine allergic. just don't drip it in the ears as it is ototoxic (ie, can cause deafness when dripped into the ear)Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence
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Originally posted by claymore View PostGot the washing and bleaching but how do you dry it and keep it sterile ? Do you pack it in jars and sterilize in pressure cooker ?
You could certainly try using a pressure cooker...an Autoclave uses steam/temp/pressure to sterilize them. Pressure breaks the cellular wall and kills the cell. I used to work in the Life Sciences dept at my University and one of the tasks was to load the autoclave with the petri dishes and test tubes from the biology/microbiology classes. The smell though was something you will never forget if you operate an autoclave that has some microbiology stuff in it. Pressure cooking these bandages most likely won't make the same smell."It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar
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