Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

"Researcher" or "Doer?"

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • "Researcher" or "Doer?"

    Very common now a days to hear the time "research" in survival circles.

    Some bear it like a badge of honor- "I'm doing my research on AR15s", "I'm doing my research on which model of shoes to wear."

    It's usually given with the justification of "I want to do in ONCE and do it RIGHT."

    And the idea of that gives rise to the justification of months, sometimes (no bull) YEARS spent "researching" something before TAKING ACTION.

    Recently had this come up in a series of private messages I was sent asking about what "gear" I used during a class I attended recently. The follow wanted to know specifics of "gear" of the attendees- and mine in particular he references in the pics. His rationale was that since the class students were mentioned as being "really squared away", he needed to know what kind of gear everyone was using.

    Everyone in the class was complimented for being "really squared away", and this fellow seemed to take it to mean "they had good GEAR." Yet the context of the compliment was in regards to the fact that their was no duds in the class- everyone was good to go with their PT, had their weapons handling down well, was safe, worked together well, etc. NOT that all of us had Guichi Gear.

    Yet too often people focus on the GEAR instead of the skills. It's nothing to see someone that chokes on their first attempt at working in the field at night, or shooting at night to rush out and buy NV, thinking that simply the GEAR will make up for their training deficiency. That gear will certainly HELP, but if your basics suck, they will still suck, you'll just look cooler.

    Anywhoo, back to the "research". So this fellow admitted spending a lot of time "researching" gear.

    Now the "do it once and do it right" thing- I got to thinking about that phrase and I realized in the 28 years I've been preparing, I have literally NONE of the gear I started with. Save my first Kalashnikov that saw 30,000 rounds through it and looks like the muj fought the Soviets with it for 10 years, that now sits in my safe for memory sake with a note "Break glass in case of Red Dawn :)"

    Boots, web gear (now tactical nylon), mag pouches, clothing, wet weather gear, hats, weapons, magazines, optics, have ALL changed from 1987. Heck they weren't the same I used in the 90's and very very little of it was stuff I used even as recent as 05'ish.

    So this concept that you will only ever have to buy something ONE TIME is very juvenile. Sounds great and I guess if the gear never leaves your CLOSET it may actually hold true.... But if your actually TRAINING, actually LEARNING and working with your gear, it's going to wear out, break down or your going to CHANGE things with it.

    Gear setups are constantly changing. Most people if they are paying attention learn something about themselves and their gear every time they go to the field. THAT'S A GOOD THING. You want to learn NOW versus finding out later that your Rothco tacticool vest was a total POS and fell apart the first time you used it.

    If you learn these things NOW, you have time to change, time to get something else, time to upgrade. If you don't learn these things till TSHTF, then you will have no or very very limited options for resupply.

    Now to the "I gotta have the best" mindsets-

    Yes, you definitely want to buy quality, no one is saying not to. However there is a fine balance between doing NOTHING for years cause you "only want to buy the best but can't afford it" and getting something workable in and then LATER upgrading to the better one.

    "Oh but I don't need two of X"

    OMG, what a terrible thing right?! God forbid you have a BACKUP, or you pass the piece of gear along to another family member, sell it, or "pay it forward" to another survivalist.

    "Research" is great, but get used to MAKING DECISIONS and making them in a REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. This helps builds your decision making muscles.

    You don't want to be the guy sitting around watching the TV and logging in to survival forums posting "is TS really HTF right now? What do you all think?" as things fall apart. You want to be the guy that makes decisions QUICKLY AND EFFECTIVELY and gets moving, versus sitting on his hands.
    Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"

    Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

    Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

  • #2
    Good topic. I think many get hung up with what's new.
    I've gone through three ++ sets of gear in the last 10 years. Each time progressing /reassigning and changing. Heck I'm almost on the verge of another change....if my pocket book allows. But some put way to much into it. Look at "what pack " or what chest rig.
    None of my junk matches...cuz its gonna change. Granted I dont have a black cross draw tactical vest nor started with one ....gear vs mission and looking like a tool wasn't it LOL
    Do I feel under geared with a 3 cell chest rig...vintage bhi three day ruck and drop leg....nope....wouldn't feel under geared if you forced me to wear that torture device known as Alice either .....
    Run whatca brung and all that jazz....

    (Off to research cool daddy Gucci gear) ...:p
    Hey Petunia...you dropped your man pad!

    Comment


    • #3
      So you plan on posting those "squared away" messages so we can get squared away too? :cool:
      -=> Rmplstlskn <=-

      Comment


      • #4
        Yes exactly, just READING these messages will make anyone "squared away" LMAO
        Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"

        Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

        Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

        Comment


        • #5
          Preach on. Being a medical guy I've transitioned several times on what I carry medically for me and more advanced gear for the rest of the group I'm with. I run it, and try it then tweak it.

          What I would say, like Protus said...use what you got! If it sits in your closet you won't know what works and what doesn't. You can't crawl on your living room floor and say it's the same as crawling through brush and dirt. I would dare to say if you haven't changed some things you probably haven't tried it (ex-military excluded as you've tweaked your gear set up with Uncle Sam's dime).


          Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
          Protecting the sheep from the wolves that want them, their family, their money and full control of our Country!

          Guns and gear are cool, but bandages stop the bleeding!

          ATTENTION: No trees or animals were harmed in any way in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were really ticked off!

          NO 10-289!

          Comment


          • #6
            I compare it to the difference between believing there is a God and having Faith in God. Some people go through the motions just to cover their bases. It's like insurance. But as Christians who transitioned from believing in God to having Faith in him understand its a totally different ball game. For the "prepper" they are only going through the motions. Trying to cover all bases without being totally "IN" so to speak. For me it's simple. Either you believe that something VERY bad can and probably will happen or you don't. If you believe it, I mean REALLY believe it then you will naturally move away from the lists and into ACTION. Being fully prepared(i know not possible) is a huge and daunting task. It involves mastery of multiple disciplines and skill sets and a level of conviction that honestly only about 2% of the survivalist community has. I question myself constantly, Am I doing all I can and inevitably the answer is NO. But the key is making the commitment to taking it seriously. We all have different motivation, for me it is my wife and son. If you have family and their survival doesn't motivate you than nothing will. If that is the case I know a way you can save tons of money and satisfy your research itch.. Take up fantasy football and leave the survival game to the big boys..... Just sayin

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by 1Admin View Post
              Yes exactly, just READING these messages will make anyone "squared away" LMAO


              That's how I became master then...lmao
              Hey Petunia...you dropped your man pad!

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by protus View Post
                That's how I became master then...lmao
                pretty sure your Ninja no matter what gear you sport

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by justanothergunnut View Post
                  pretty sure your Ninja no matter what gear you sport
                  LOL ....maybe. but I'm glad I've progressed like I have or id still ne yelling about how great an Alice pack is...LOL
                  No reason to stay 1970 s tech...when there's better out there
                  Hey Petunia...you dropped your man pad!

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Thanks so much for posting. I hope you don't mind if I steal this and share it. Great points made.
                    אני אעמוד עם ישו וישראל

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by xdpatriot View Post
                      Thanks so much for posting. I hope you don't mind if I steal this and share it. Great points made.
                      No problem, share it anywhere, just drop a link to the thread here wherever you post it :)
                      www.homesteadingandsurvival.com

                      www.survivalreportpodcast.com

                      "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed..."

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        I try to research first, and then do. Most of the time, my preps are a 'work in progress'. As I try this, or that , I begin to figure out what works best for me, and for the environment I am living in.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mannlicher View Post
                          I try to research first, and then do. Most of the time, my preps are a 'work in progress'. As I try this, or that , I begin to figure out what works best for me, and for the environment I am living in.
                          This is my philosophy. There is a certain amount of research necessary in every aspect of being prepared whether it be bug-out loads, gardening/homesteading or the tactical end. The crux of the matter is, as in all things, to find a balance that works for you. Do some research, try on a small scale if possible and then go for it. It's also an iterative process. There are ever developing technologies/techniques in water treatment, outdoor/rugged accutriments and so on. Every so often it pays to revisit what you think you have squared away for no other reason than to confirm you're doing the best you can for your situation. And above all, if in doubt ask.
                          "Common sense might be common but it is by no means wide spread." Mark Twain

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            I change out a lot of gear as I progress through obsessions. I would usually rather break something and fix it rather than not do anything at all.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              The frustration for me isnt with people who research what they buy or how they spend their hard earned money. It's with people who never go beyond research or buy something, stick it in their "GO" bag and call it good. I recently went on a weekend campout / "prepper" get together and while discussing portable solar equipment some guy proceeds to tell me that his roll up film canister size panel/battery combo is all he needs and he got his for $30. So I go on to ask him how many AA batteries he can charge from his nifty little unit.. "I don't know' he replies but it will charge his phone twice!! GREAT I tell him. But that doesnt mean S&*$t to me because i have to recharge a AA battery for my PVS14 and I don't have time to figure out if your cool little Bear Gryls roll up solar unit is gonna man up and get the job done. The point clearly made in the op is some people make lists and others go do stuff. If you spend your time making lists and not actually using and practicing with your gear then you need to get off your A$$ and do it, just do it. Otherwise you are playing a fantasy game.I don't care if you Get out in the park and rub two sticks together but DO something!!!

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X