multiculturalism muslim style

[prc-104]

Sorry I'm not an expert, however ...

as I said, I'm not as expert as our sage understander of muslims is, but I have worked closely and extensively with muslims on multiple continents for some 40 years now.

Yep, there's folks of all stripes in all communities.

What I learned about the muslim is they can be a real asset but you have to remember to keep your eyes
open.

I never met many who wouldn't be friendly to your face. Some weren't but most were. OTOH, all would turn around and do you in a flash. Everyone I worked with was that way. The US Marines ended up in Tripoli and they know the only thing the muslim respected was strength.

Gotta remember, they're tribal, always have been and always will be. The knowledgeable poster said the same thing in a round about way.

They will always respect the apha dog and if'n you ain't an alpha dog, then you're fair game.

They will never, as a society, be like us. That's why all our "democracy injection" into those countries we've tried in absolutely failed.

One of the tenants of a very old military association was "We will never support Tribalism". They knew what they were talking about. Darn them green beanie wearers anyway.

We need to bring people into our country who will blend for the good of all but what we're getting is those who bring their old failed lifestyles with them and want to recreate them here.

Think not? Take a day trip to Deerbourn, MI. Hint, hint, don't go a night.

Anyway, nuff of my jawing as I finish my pipe.

BTW, I figured a racist accusation was gonna come along and shore nuff.

In my limited experience with knowledgeable folk, it peers to me that the one who call someone racist are generally the real racists. Can you say Al Sharpton?

See ya all and keep your woodpile stocked up since Ol Remus dun went away.

[prc-104]

This provides clarity

Bud dropped this to me in an email and it sure does make sense.

No, not the Democratic style of It's only sensible but REAL SENSE.


A German's View on Islam - Well worth reading and thinking about.
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> This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read.
> His references to past history are accurate and clear.
> Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read.
> The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.
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> A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.
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> 'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'
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> We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
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> The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
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> The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people..
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> The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet. And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?
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> History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
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> Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
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> Now Islamic prayers have been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario , and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?) The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in.
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> In Australia , and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food items in your local supermarket. Food on aircraft have the halal emblem, just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding within the nation?s shores.
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> In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of ?no-go? zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuse to acknowledge British law.
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> As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
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> Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on - before it's too late.
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> And we are silent......
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>Scary? you bet it is and we need to stop it here.
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We, as Americans, have GOT to START seeing the forest for the trees!

/john

[creman]

I know your post above isn't a direct attack, but I really wish you guys would re-read my posts. I'm not saying Islam is a peaceful religion as a whole, or that it's all about love and care. I will not apologize for caring about the souls of people from any group, and for suggesting not writing everyone in said group off. Caution is fine but blind hatred is not.

I don't care if this stance makes me the only one who feels this way because I honestly feel it is the correct thing to do. If this makes me drink tea with Obama then so be it, but God will NEVER fault me for feeling love for people.

[justanothergunnut]

Creman. I understand your point and agree that we are commanded to love each other and that judging a entire race or group of people based on the actions of a portion of that group may not be wise. That being said I do not believe anyone is saying anything but practice caution. Look at our enemies, learn there tactics and beliefs . Take this intelligence and use it as a filter by which to predict future behavior. Common sense. Debate is a good thing. In my eyes we are all brothers here until actions prove otherwise