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  • What I think re: the current mess

    I don't know why anyone would care :) J/K but I've received a lot of emails lately with the question(s) of what do you think about the current mess, what are you doing in regards to it. That sort of thing.

    In an effort to type it once and be done, here goes.

    Understand these are just my opinions, take them for what they will.

    On the weapons issue-


    *I think this current regime and leader are getting really used to getting what they want. Much more so than the Klintons in the 1990's with the first go around on the gun ban merry go round. Also, consider that was almost 20 years ago now. A LOT has changed in our country since then, little for the better.

    *Whether it really is or really isn't, the media has such a strange hold on the country they will act as if public opinion is completely for a new gun ban. In the end, tyrannical gubmints could give a rip less about public opinion but in the short term, they will continue to play the game like they really care.

    *Their may even be another episode in the W.O.P.K. show (Whacked Out Prozac Killers) before the "bill" is ready and voted on. However watch the Diane CrackFiendStein video at the end of this thread, she claims to ALREADY HAVE ONE READY.

    *I heard yesterday from a customer who owns a large shooting supply company up north. His business is booming also as ANYTHING gun related is. However he seems to think that the NRA has this sewn up, that quote they don't have enough votes, dem-a gog or Republirat unquote. I REMEMBER HEARING TIME AND TIME AGAIN IN THE 90'S how "they don't have the votes", "the NRA will stop them" etc. we let our guard down and got the Crime bill and AWB....... BOTTOM LINE- do NOT fall into inaction based on pipe dreams. Hedge your bets and get what you need sewn up NOW.

    *Are you just giving this lip service Robert? Nope.

    *Now let's be clear on something- is this chicken little stuff? Nope baby it's COLMOLLIIN and gun bans, talk of gun bans and yo yo price flucuations have been a part of our continuation of life more or less like it is now for the last 20 years. Why did I buy a few things lately? Because I didn't want to PAY MORE for them later. Already ammo went up almost $70. a case since I last bought- since that is something we use regularly, crazy concept I know- USING ammo you have in storage for practice, to better your skills etc. :) So that is $70. in MY POCKET now that would not have been in my pocket had I hemmed and hawed around. Some other items I bought showed out of stock immediately after purchasing them, then when more stock came in, the same items were $150. more. THIS is why you don't hesitate during times like this. You are not going to get any "deals" on ammo, guns, magazines, and related stuff right now, THAT SHIP HAS SAILED. So trying to be a "joo" is going to leave you EMPTY HANDED. The time for being a cheapskate and 'running hard deals' IS NOW GONE. THIS is why you don't wait around. You lost most if not all of your room for negotiation in these products for the time being. Get over it, you have to pay more now. Get it while you still can and learn the lesson. Slow and steady DOES win the race, but the key to that is the word STEADY, in other words, CONSISTENT. A herky jerky approach to preparedness WILL cost you more in the long run. BTDT, have seen so many people try to prepare that way. Normally the biggest cheapskates when prices are good, are the ones that end up HAVING to pony up 3X normal prices for things they wait around on.

    *Tacking on to the above, here is an important note- the time for "research" is over, the time for ACTION is now. I'm not saying go crazy, but the analytical "I have to research this for three years and read every "review" of this before I act" people are going to BE LEFT IN THE DUST by people that ACT.

    *In short, I'm not counting on the vote not going through, I'm not counting on the NRA going to bat for us, or the Kalashnikov fairy to somehow come and rescue us from this. If it doesn't happen, well it doesn't happen. But if it does, I will have what I need for years of training and practice, I won't have to CHEAT MYSELF by not having ammo to train with.


    Fiscal cliff deal-

    *Will this be averted? Yeah I think it will- to a degree. I expect we will lose a lot of tax deductions for small business, I expect some of the earned income credit and various deductions that help a lot of individuals will be slashed. In negotiation their is an unspoken axiom that most negotiations finish right at the DEADLINE (if their is one). I expect a "deal" whether good or bad will happen at the 11th hour if it does happen.

    *Could this be used for a power grab? Yes I believe it could. The potential scenario involves a "deadlock." It's like the old Scooby Doo shows- "I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for these meddling kids." Only it will be "we could have averted this if it wasn't for these meddling republicans." Slowly but surely Zero is consolidating power. To not see that is not to look. He's getting too used to getting his way. No I don't think he will reveal himself as Darth Sidious nor proclaim that "I AM the Senate" LOL, but he's consolidating power slowly but surely. If not for him, for the office of president.

    *What am I doing regards to this? Their is a business deduction called Section 187 expense. This allows small business owners to take a deduction for smaller plant and equipment items (computers, laptops, office equipment, power tools, etc.) all in the same year it is purchased- versus depreciating the item over a 7 or 10 year schedule. I'm using that because I don't know if it will be there next year. It's a legitimate legal expense also.

    *I don't expect banks to close in January or anything like that, however I'm looking towards a slight shakeup in the markets if we go over the "cliff" for even a short period of time. I intend to buy back into the market if their is a significant drop (say down to 11,000) . This is long term retirement funds, not anything we need for anything in the next few years. Search COLMOLLIIN on the site here if you don't understand WHY you should stay in the market long term.

    *Further to the above, we are keeping some extra cash around. I don't think you should "cash out of dollars" and run scared, but you should protect yourself.

    *Further further to the above, I'll make some small purchases of PM's because I expect silver and gold to go up should the "cliff" not be averted. Yes, food, water, shelter is good to go. Other than adding some new beehives and new goats this year to supplement those already on the homestead.


    In short, I don't expect TS to HTF in January. I am however concerned about how far the dems will go with the gun bans and how people will react to that.







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  • #2
    I agree with you. To take it a bit further, when people refuse to comply with the registration they will be vilified by the mainstream media. That same mainstream media, that cant seem to find anyone that has ever known Zero, nor unearth remnants of his supposed attendance at Columbia University, will then pick apart the life that you had. "Got in a yelling fight with his girlfriend because she cheated on you" will turn into, "HISTORY OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE", DUI 20 years ago will resurface as "PROBLEMS WITH AUTHORITY" or "RECKLESS BEHAVIOR" or "BLATANT DISREGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE". Point is, half the populace will already hate you, and half the other half will only read the headlines and write you off as a kook whacko and be glad "THEY" got you off the street before you could hurt someone.

    Most every Vet experiences some level of PTSD. Most people cant operate under that much pressure for so long without at least a meltdown period to adjust to normal living again. That will be looked at as mental illness, and rights for those that swore to uphold the Constitution wont be afforded the RIGHTS written it. I have read and read about how the military and LEO would refuse to confiscate firearms from individuals. I believe it! But the might UN (funded with our own tax dollars) would LOVE to disarm us. They would take great pleasure in neutering the populace of the greatest country in the world.

    So where does that leave us? Rock and a hard place if you ask me. Bury your rifles in PVC or turn them in if you cant afford the $200 dollars for each gun in your collection you want to have grandfathered in. Me...well there are always other options.

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    • #3
      In addition to the above, I think it's also largely the fault of "We The People".

      For example, how many folks Proclaim their avid and patriotic support for the cause by becoming a member of the NRA or GOA.....only to spend 10 TIMES that on CommieCast or MSLSD entertainment products?

      Seriously. Anyone who claims to be on the side of the Constitution and Liberty yet pumps unnecessary big bucks into the enemies pockets is pretty much in their camp imo.

      I can understand needing a basic Internet package. BASIC. You might be stuck for that....maybe. But to subscribe to all the Jelly Filled Donut EXTRAS?

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      • #4
        Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"

        Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

        Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

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        • #5
          Remember Assualt is an action, a verb not a noun or adjective. Another good group is the Second Amendment Foundation. Write your congrress critters.
          Survival question. What do I need most, right now?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tarheelsman71 View Post
            I agree with you. To take it a bit further, when people refuse to comply with the registration they will be vilified by the mainstream media. That same mainstream media, that cant seem to find anyone that has ever known Zero, nor unearth remnants of his supposed attendance at Columbia University, will then pick apart the life that you had. "Got in a yelling fight with his girlfriend because she cheated on you" will turn into, "HISTORY OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE", DUI 20 years ago will resurface as "PROBLEMS WITH AUTHORITY" or "RECKLESS BEHAVIOR" or "BLATANT DISREGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE". Point is, half the populace will already hate you, and half the other half will only read the headlines and write you off as a kook whacko and be glad "THEY" got you off the street before you could hurt someone.
            We all need to remember this! If things take a turn south, especially if its slowly. That 'crazy gun nut' may not be what seems!

            Cohaero Cohero Cohesi Cohesum -
            remember it
            אני אעמוד עם ישו וישראל

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            • #7
              On the other side of your "slap up side the head" motivational message... ;)

              Weapons: I just had to Cowboy Up myself... Been testing the waters selling my stainless FAL for over a year but no offers near what I wanted for it, and worthy of its value as a collectors item... After days at the range over the last several years trying to make the FAL fit the needs I had and needed, I found the FAL really was just a "battle rifle" after all... Not a precision shooter (even if it did have a Badger barrel), nor was it a CQB weapon, it was, as designed, a carbine to rain hell on the battelfield. That was not what I needed....

              It was not until "The Frenzy of the Mayan Apocalypse" that brought in a stream of eager buyers willing to pay my perceived value of the FAL. I didn't gouge (it would have been easy to do so), but I did get FULL VALUE as I saw it. The same buyer also took all my FAL mags and .308 ammo less the precision stuff... I did well...

              Now I was in a Catch-22... Sold my FAL for full value, but now everything I wanted to buy to fill the strategic needs I had was INSANE... What I needed was a folding stock, lightweight (smaller caliber) "truck gun" that was reliable and easy to shoot, and after days of searching I found what I wanted, but I had to pay DEARLY for it... The guy, like me, wanted full value, but it wasn't the gouging I had seen elsewhere. $900 for a Polish Tantal AK-74 is what I found... Yep, $900 for an AK is insane, you scream... I can hear it... I said it too, as I was about to give up and just "wait it out" for sanity to return. But I don't think it will for a LONG TIME... Like 1Admin said, and I paraphase, "Suck it up, Buttercup!"

              But I am not crying and moaning... This frenzy has also brought out some AMAZING firearms from safes all across the USA, put up on sale... This is also an opportunity to buy a firearm that normally would not be for sale anywhere... I have seen some truly "to die for" firearms come up for sale this last week, with to die for prices, but hey, to play ya gotta pay. Why I don't feel so bad about my $900 AK is that this Tantal was hand-built by the late Bobby of Salbo Arms for a personal friend of his (extra care in workmanship), using NoDak receiver and EXC+++ Polish kit. Everything on this AK was checked and adjusted to perfect tolerances by an AK expert gunsmith. That, to me, is value added right there...



              Welcome to the NEW "normal..." Sucks, I know... But adapt and persevere!

              Rmpl
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              • #8
                Welcome to the NEW "normal..." Sucks, I know... But adapt and persevere!
                That's it in a nutshell people....

                The longer you take to adapt to that "new normal" the more you are going to pay and probably the less you are going to get (more $$ for less ammo, etc.)
                Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"

                Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

                Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

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                • #9
                  Was curious to see the LOCAL feeding frenzy, so I visited several gunstores and the local Wally World... WoW!!!! Nut-N-Fancy was right, this is unprecedented, unlike any frenzies in the past... Even in our po-dunk liberal town!

                  Every AR and AK-type firearm was gone. All "designed capacity" magazines were gone. The place was packed. A friend who owns a great local shop said their suppliers of AR stuff are not even taking new orders, and manufacturers are already full of orders for ALL OF 2013, not selling anymore until later in next year... That is all of 2013 already sold out...

                  Several first-time buyers with no clue what they wanted, they just knew they wanted an AR-15 and a "high-capicity pistol." Saw a dude with baby on the chest, two in a stroller, who said he and his wife wanted to buy a "rifle and a pistol," but had no clue what or why, so the salesman had to "interview" them to find out what they wanted was all sold out already... They looked shocked...

                  A local rip-off shop was also sold out of al AR & AK stuff. I saw THREE AR PMAG's on the wall for $39.99 and they were all bought as I was standing there watching... No AR or AK ammo.

                  Wally World, no AR, AK or .308 ammo... Zilch No 9mm either.

                  Gunbroker is auction after auction of exceedingly high prices, but all of them are selling...

                  I have personally NEVER seen it this bad, even back when the AWB under Clinton hit... Prices were high then, but the volume was not high either. This is high prices and with volume sales...

                  Dawn of a new age, sadly...

                  Rmpl
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                  • #10
                    On another forum, someone was crying "profiteering" by gun dealers.... I always love people with NO grasp of business saying stupid crap like that.... Here was my reply, I'm cross posting it cause it does bring the point home-

                    Mad cause prices went up? Their is one person to blame.... he's the man in the mirror. His name is PROCRASTINATION, his name is INACTION. He wastes his money on other things, then claims to not have the money he needs to prep, yet he claims he's all about preparing but won't make any real sacrifices to get it done. He loves to talk about doing things "on the cheap" because he doesn't have money. Yet he drives a huge SUV cause he has 2.5 children and well it would be child abuse for them to ride in a small car that gets good gas mileage and didn't cost $40K! He wastes a lot of time on the internet doing "research" on things he "plans" to buy or do but in years of "research" never seems to actually get anything done. Often times his "research" simply leads him in big circles. He squanders his time and OPPORTUNITIES to get things cheaply due to INACTION. But when things get short on supply, when prices go up, oh hell yeah THEN HE'S VOCAL! He expects that things he saw for low prices for years will ALWAYS be available at low prices whenever HE is finally ready or finally feels the push to do it. It's all about him so the WORLD is waiting for him and holding scarce items ready for him at 1990's prices right?? Why wouldn't they?

                    What? The item is no longer available? The item is banned or under intense political pressure? TENS OF THOUSANDS of others are snapping up the product? Well surely that shouldn't affect him cause when he is finally ready, well prices should still be sitting at 1990's prices and their is always a dozen waiting on the shelf with a tag "held for THAT guy" that no one will sell because special guy is not yet ready for it, he's still doing "research", he's still in INACTION mode.

                    Come on folks..... some of you sound like a bunch of crying communists.... "Profiteering" get the fudge out of here. Well to gun bans, sorry you weren't paying attention the other couple times we've all been through this in the last 20 years but that's how it is.

                    I'm reminded of a buddy of mine who is a bigtime Joo and gets caught in the INACTION cycle quite a bit. "Hey man, Scott Evil is down at Shot show and is buying pallets of X39 for his shop at $70. a case, we are going in on a pallet also, you want a couple cases?" Oh no, I'll wait. Couple years pass- "hey man, we are buying some X39, got a great price at $100. a case, you want to get in on the order?" What? I thought it was $70. a case before and you bought a bunch, why are you buying more? "Well geez dude, you know we USE our ammo for training and practice and classes and stuff, what good is it if you don't train?" No I'll wait. "Hey guy, buying some more X39 to replace training losses, it's $150. a case now." No I'll wait till it goes back to $100. a case. "OK, but it's not going to go back to $100. a case." Long story short, the guy bought TWO cases at $375. a case after the 2008 panic rush. That equals $750. for two cases. Had he had not been a procrastinating Joo, he could have bought TEN cases back in the day.

                    Who does he have to blame? HIMSELF.

                    Hey, I know it sucks. Some years we go through 10K rounds of rifle ammo alone training and in classes. I'm constantly replacing training losses in ammo. Yes it sucks to pay $250. a case for X39 but it is what it is. It's not going back to $70. a case and probably not back to $200. a case any time soon.

                    Some of us need to stop crying and suck it up, you know "rub some dirt on it" and get what you need NOW.


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                    Added- folks that aren't in business need to realize, most businesses, especially now a days operate on a very small % of profit. I've had people actually think we made "thousands" on PVS14's!! How stupid is that! Dropping prices for a quote recently I cut $1,500. off the price for a $15K purchase and the guy had the audacity to call that a "nominal" discount!! LOL I made more on two regular priced units than what I would have made on his six units that he didn't buy. Folks need to realize that most businesses operate on a pretty small profit margin.

                    To think that a gun dealer has a mountain of goods that he purchased at 1990 prices and is just "profiteering" by marking them up to CURRENT prices is simply stupid thinking. You always have the option of NOT BUYING if you don't like the prices your local gun dealer is charging. Hell I don't like seeing $299. a case for X39, but on a whim I bought a few more cause who knows.... That man in the mirror, he COULDA and SHOULDA bought more a few years ago, but he was just replacing training losses then. That man in the mirror didn't ACT, that man in the mirror has NO ONE ELSE TO BLAME but himself. And if that man in the mirror chooses to pay $299. a case, well he's got nothing to complain about.

                    Buy hey, that's just me, I'm realistic... :)
                    Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"

                    Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

                    Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

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                    • #11
                      Great post Admin.. Sounds right to me too.

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                      • #12
                        Great post Admin1! I totally agree, and my dh and I are paying for our own procrastination with regards to a few items that have been on our list. With that said, I do not blame the seller, it is our own fault. C'est la vie!

                        SC
                        "Do not fear, for I am with you;
                        Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God.
                        I will strengthen you, surely I will help you,
                        Surely I will uphold you with My righteous right hand." Isaiah 41:10

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                        • #13
                          This was my email to the folks around here last night, please read all the way to the bottom:

                          ok went to bass pro, wow, what a waste of a gift card, feel like i shoulda at least got a kiss after that date
                          30-06, got the last 2 165gr, zero 150s but found some 150 ball American Eagle , that was more expensive than 180gr sp so i got the 180sp ya know in case any moose,elk or buicks show up
                          243 nothing under $45 and very little of that left, crazy
                          Zero 22 EXCEPT one box of 300rd of swamp people stardom stuff for $26 which 2 guys were debating on buying anyway
                          They had 45, 38, 357 and 40 in sporadic quantities/qualities but no 223 or 9mm
                          Shotgun rds, whew, no heavy fighting stuff and dove shells were $9 a box which is nuts and it went up to $40 a box from there to kill a stupid bird (more on this later)
                          Reloading and magazine lanes were echo chambers except for 1911 mags and oddball stuff

                          Then to academy
                          Got my 243 ammo, they have plenty
                          They had 10mm and 40 but no 223/9mm/22s/ alot of other stuff
                          They did have plenty of shotgun stuff of all kinds at normal prices so i'd get the heavy now and bird shells later IMHO

                          lots of traffic in both places and same stories from all talkers, me i'm just a listener and i'm still stunned at the lack of 22s everywhere


                          NOW CONVERT EVERYTHING I SAID TO FOOD/WATER/MEDICINE/FUEL
                          GET YOUR S... TOGETHER NOW. THE END
                          Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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                          • #14
                            Went by the LGS to pick up a magazine I'd ordered a month before the madness began, guy there said "and you get the last one..." and I'm like "last one?!?" and he said, "Yep, I can't order them anymore or for the foreseeable future." Dang, and that was for a 12 round Springfield XD 40 mag. I also bought a box of .22 remington Thunderbolts (500 rounds) for 23 bux. Wally world was completly the frack out of anything bigger than .22 short in .22 rimfire ammo, had the pricey X39 ammo, no 9, no 45, some 40 (Yippee for me, I can still train with my pistol at my current spending pace!) My biggest question is how am I going to replace some planned training ammo I plan to burn next year? The timing of all this business just sucks. I'm supposed to be buying bandaids, not bullets! I'm not supposed to be buying any more bullets until April, but I find myself adjusting my priorities... I think I will stick to my Plan, Okie's post is spot on, the bandaids and beans could VERY EASILY become as hard to find as the bullets, and I don't want to be "that guy" with all the firepower and starving mouths to feed. Over the summer I took steps to make sure I upped my food and ammo preps. Time to put all that in the back of my mind, and focus where I am weakest. I am pretty sure there's a Henryian Triangle Concept in all that somewhere... we shall see! Keep it Frosty Folks!
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