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  • #16
    Let's see. It's not right for the 'gubmint' to bail out the schmuck for taking the bait that the financial institutions blindly convinced them that they'd actually be able to afford (I'm talking about mortgages, credit cards, various loans, etc) , all the while knowing that they would default at some point. But it's ok to bail out the people who masterminded this scheme in the first place only for them to misappropriate and defalcate the tax dollars designed for the purpose of saving the economy? Is it acceptable to bail out the crook, but not the victim. It's like 'Robin the Hood'. Instead of stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, it's the exact opposite.

    Joe Sixpack can't do simple math guy that bought a house 10X more than he could afford, how many people does he EMPLOY?

    Bank of America, how many people do they EMPLOY?

    EGG ZACH LEE

    Again, not saying the gubmint should have bailed out ANYONE. As someone who has struggled my butt off to be where I am in two businesses, to actually own everything we have (no mortgage, no debt), I have little patience for hand out types, whether corporate or Joe Sixpack.

    And with all this mortgage relief crap, "freeze on foreclosures" etc. didn't the gubmint do essentially a "bailout" for the math challenged populace?
    Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"

    Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

    Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

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    • #17
      I dont see how OWS is doing any thing any good, i can not see bailouts of any kind. If you bought it, pay for it, its that simple. However i do agree we need to over thrown our opressors. But who are they? They are the 2 political parties, i see them as opposit sides of the same coin. Banks, most of them are way too powerful. Wall street too, any retirement fund is investing in wall street and stealing your hard earned money. But what to do about it? If OWS or some similar group was to say, we have done reasearch and this corperation is corupte and we have proof thay did this (fill in the blank) and we would like you to boycott them for lack of honesty in there dealings with the public. If they had real proof i would with draw all money i owned in there control. When a grass roots group pick out the worst of the offenders and brought them down, from a national boycott. Then you could have an internet poll on who to do next. I dont think this would cause the loss of too many jobs as someone will get the business of picking up there customers. I have been getting 3 -5 calls a week for several years from Bank of America trying to sell my daugher new services she is grown and didnt live here until just recently. if Americans would stand together and punish the worst corperations the others would have to get better or die.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bull View Post

        I don't think a large majority of students anywhere are "learning" much of anything, especially Economics. The majority are "learning" how to regurgitate the liberal worldview they have been fed. They learn what to think, rather than how to think. If they had the most basic understanding of economics, they would not be chanting that we should "end capitalism," which is clearly the best economic system ever devised in human history.
        That is probably the case at large universities. However, I attend a small - medium community college, and I was delighted to find that most of my instructors - particularly in politics and history - were actually quite conservative.

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        • #19
          That's good to hear MustangGal. And you are probably correct about the problem being worse at large universities. And they seem to be much worse at the Ivy League schools.

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          • #20
            From what I understand at least one professer was holding classes @ OWS. So, students were forced to attend OWS - doesn't seem right to me.

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            • #21
              Yeah, that would be a perfect example to illustrate my earlier point. I also heard that some teachers were telling kids they wouldn't be punished for truancy if they went their local protest instead of school.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bull View Post
                It isn't and hasn't been growing on it's own. It is heavily funded and organized by Soros.



                Quite right, tired of everything. A bunch of children throwing a temper tantrum about their inability to grasp reality.



                Say what? Did anyone notice all those smart phones, designer clothes, tents, and other gadgets? Guess what made those possible.



                That sentence perfectly illustrates why this person shouldn't be taken seriously.



                And more of the same again. My 11 year old is more mature and intelligent.



                The examples are getting too easy now. It's really quite sad and pathetic isn't it? The guy is so ineffectual that is gives that weak of an example. What really happened there was, Circuit City failed to receive those payments on that TV that you haven't bought. If you had bought it, there would be no more payments. And you only have a TV, because some evil Wall Street bank made it possible for Circuit City to give it to you on credit.



                I'm 110% for stopping banks from doing this. Then these people can sit around without phones, TVs, Houses, or Cars, and be perfectly happy with the world, because the evil banks aren't making life a vicious tightrope. But wait, banks loan money to companies who make products. So if these people really want to practice what they preach, they need to begin making there own clothing, from organic materials, and growing there own food. Their dope dealer, selling them pot, probably couldn't have gotten the lights and equipment for his pot growing operation if it hadn't been for the banks. So really, the best thing for these people to do, is get serious about their protesting, and set themselves on fire, like the monks did back during the Vietnam War. It would end their miserable lives, make ours a bit more entertaining, and with any luck, the fires would help consume the horrid stench they have created in the park.


                Exactly. They want something different. They want change. Change you can believe in to be precise. So they all voted for it. And they put Barack Obama, the person who received more money from Wall Street than anyone else in history, in charge of the country. It must really suck to be so pathetic, so confused, and ineffectual. Children get mad about things they don't like, and they learn how to adapt. But these people can't learn, and come up with any solutions to help their worthless lives, so all they can figure out is that they want something different, and so they follow whoever tells them they'll provide it. Too bad they can't be led somewhere else. "Here you go folks, we've build these nice big shower facilities for you. That's it, go on in there, we'll just close the door behind you. Don't mind that smell."


                I would love to hear of an innovation in debt forgiveness. That is so great. Someone loans you something and you don't pay it back. But somehow, they never stop loaning. That must sound truly sublime to these cretins. One could point out that people who borrow, and have no intention to pay back what they borrowed, is "predatory."


                Polite occupy protestors? Perhaps the banks also repossessed their dictionaries before they had a chance to read them.

                These degenerates at the protest, and this moron who wrote the article are proof that we have kept mother nature from doing it's job of killing off the weak and defective members of our species.



                Excellent! Could not have said it any better!

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                • #23
                  I must say that I enjoy hearing your comments and ideas. I like to hear other sides and opinions. That way I can remain a free thinker.
                  Last edited by Grand58742; 11-14-2011, 02:20 PM. Reason: your personal slams are not needed...watch yourself

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Bill Spies View Post
                    And just out of curiosity, do you folks listen to (and believe) Fox News?

                    .
                    No I don't listen to them much, or watch much tv in general. The two "News" channels I watch would be Fox and CNN. Not because I turned it there necessarily but because it was already on that channel.

                    Why? What are they (Fox) saying?
                    A desire changes nothing, a decision changes some thing's, but determination changes everything.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cimarron View Post
                      Why? What are they (Fox) saying?
                      It's not that Fox is not reporting the events in the world. They are. But I think they are very biased towards the right wing. Fox News has it's political contributers that fund this station in which their news broadcast tells you what they (the contributers) want you to know. So, you may not be getting the full truth. Who these contributers are? I would say...the Republican party? Maybe others as well. And if you're a Republican, then that would work for you because you already buy in to their propaganda. But I don't think you're getting the full story and you're being manipulated with your thoughts and perspectives. Sometimes Fox is legitimate! I too listen to Fox along with CNN, BBC, Al-Jazeera, and a wealth of others. That way you get multiple perspectives on what is going on and allows you to think for yourself instead of having someone spoon feed you information.

                      You need to question authority.
                      Last edited by Guest; 11-14-2011, 10:05 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Bill Spies View Post
                        It's not that Fox is not reporting the events in the world. They are. But I think they are very biased towards the right wing. Fox News has it's political contributors that fund this station in which their news broadcast tells you what they (the contributors) want you to know. So, you may not be getting the full truth. Who these contributers are? I would say...the Republican party? Maybe others as well. And if you're a Republican, then that would work for you because you already buy in to their propaganda. But I don't think you're getting the full story and you're being manipulated with your thoughts and perspectives. Sometimes Fox is legitimate! I too listen to Fox along with CNN, BBC, Al-Jazeera, and a wealth of others. That way you get multiple perspectives on what is going on and allows you to think for yourself instead of having someone spoon feed you information.

                        You need to question authority.
                        I think every News outlet is guilty to some degree of "designer news". They add/omit words here and there to make that story sound just a little bit better. Including Fox news. I also think that as far as this goes the left wing news outlets have them beat far and wide for the juicing up of their "propaganda". Since you gave no facts, I won't either and we'll just leave it to our Opin-yuns.

                        My news sources are all over the place but I don't spend spend a lot of time watching the "talking-heads", or have the desire to do so.

                        No, I am not a Republican. Had been since I was old enough to register. I got so frustrated with them during Bush's second term when I moved I re-registered as a Independent..kind of a "I'll show you" and leave the party...lol. I have mostly voted R but not exclusively. Some D's on the local level have a great track record and platform. It's not about the letter behind the name anymore.
                        A desire changes nothing, a decision changes some thing's, but determination changes everything.

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