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I think once you have sorted your food and water and other essentials a little bit of anything can’t hurt. If you do it ‘arse backwards’ as we say in Yorkshire then the reverse is true, it could well hurt you hard. I mean sure those people who bought tens of thousands of
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Post SHTF, when things begin to stabilize, a form of money would be helpful, even at the lower stages of re-forming an economy. If you have gold, or gold or silver bullion, than you are at a disadvantage during this period. Way later on you may still get a lot of benefit from your investment. But if you bought silver, in the form of old dimes and that type of thing, which are 90% silver, that could be more advantages. First off, you don't have to trade a $1300 ounce of gold for a lb of rice. You would have smaller increments to use when trading. Secondly, people are going to be able to look at a quarter, dime, or half dollar, and recognize it. You won't have to worry about figuring out purities, weights, and all that. Some might still try to counterfit, and most people are more familiar with normal change than any of the other stuff. So, you are still investing in a precious metal if things remain such that you can get a return on your investment, but you are more flexible with it for the duration of the rebuilding economy, if the SHTF. Just my thoughts about it. But screw any of that until you get the food and other supplies and goods taken care of.Comment
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EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
Google the above Executive orders and find out just how quick the gov. can and will take your food and anything else they can find.
In addition to the above, each State has similar executive orders, which the Governor can enact.Comment
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Yeah google those EO's some have been revoked so many times it is hard to keep track of them, like EO 10998 was signed in '62, revoked in '69, the revocation was revoked in 80 something which was revoked and that was revoked and that was revoked.....craziness for sure. You will have to follow the chain to see what exactly is in force and what isn't. Good job MB!!"It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral AckbarComment
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So, fedgovco has declared itself omnipotent? I guess they believe all they'll hafta do is bark orders to the sheeple? Whadabout the sheepdogs?Comment
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Think of the arrogance that was involved in creating those Executive Orders. Amazing.Comment
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It always reminds me of a lion tamer, in a cage with the king of the jungle cracking his whip and making it do tricks, they never think they are going to get mauled......Originally posted by Bearman202 View PostComment
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money may be whatever the person needs that you're bartering with, eggs, salt,firewood,silver,labor ect.Comment
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Something that I have always questioned but haven't been able to wrap my mind around, or able to frame the question in a way people understand me.
I understand there is value in precious metals. We use coins with a "value" in today's economy. A Widget costs $1.50 you pay $2.00 and get back .50 etc.
If after a collapse/hyperinflation when a product could cost hundreds more, coins will seem worthless. So what, you have a bunch of old coins, bread costs forty bucks a loaf.
Sometime after a collapse and there is a barter system and let's say you are wanting to trade with someone and use nickels and dimes. It would seem to me that you would still have a 'nickel and dime' mind set to deal with.
You: "Nice chickens, I'll give you some silver for one".
Trader:"Haha, you got 3.40 cents in dimes and nickels, don't you know those are worthless now?"
You: "Yeah but they are pre-1965 coins, so they have more silver in them."
Trader: "They can't sharpen my axe, I can't shoot them outa my gun and I can't eat them. Why would I want them, when I trade with that other guy for corn, that I can use.A desire changes nothing, a decision changes some thing's, but determination changes everything.Comment
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Well when you put it like that its a fair point, yet for over 5000 years people all around the world have placed a great deal of value on precious metals. So I think its safe to say whatever happens they are going to hold some value.Originally posted by Cimarron View Post
Also, letComment
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@WiseOwl>>>>>
Yet another example of the incompetent American public school system.Originally posted by Triple-sod View Post
Lions are NOT the king of the jungle, Lions live NO WHERE near the jungle and never have.
The phrase coined by an American, and was intelligently challenged, the false phrase still remains.
During an experiment, a group of 3rd graders were asked where Lions live, they all said the jungle.
When a group of 6th graders were asked, they knew that Lions lived in the plains of Africa, but did NOT know what animal was the true King of the Jungle: the tiger.Comment
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OH, that wasnt a dig on Triple-sod, just showing WiseOwl another example of the false knowledge our public school system regurgitates daily... :)Comment
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No offense taken
When I was in the British equivalent of 6th grade I would have been the smart arse that pointed out the small population of lions that live in north west India too lol
Its just a saying though, isn't it, like we say 'drunk as a newt'Comment
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You say 'drunk as a newt'? WOW I have never heard that one.
My Grandpa's drinking quote is: 'Boy you know you are drunk, when your laying flat on the ground, and both fists clenched onto as much grass as you can, and your praying to God not to let you fall into space.'Comment
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LOL, That made sweet tea come out my nose...Originally posted by Klayton View PostStand next to me and you'll never stand alone.Comment
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