Gas pump problems.....

[arcangel911]

I got a semi-taste of possible things to come today. And the taste wasn't so great....

Last night in my area, we had several power surges and power outages. Eventually the power came back on and nothing more was thought of it.

Today I needed gas, and drove to my normal Chevron station only to find all the pumps were marked with plastic bags saying - "Out of order". I went in and asked my normal attendant what was going on since they had power. According to her, she told me that the surge knocked out all the main computer systems in the pumps and they were waiting for a technician to come out and service them. I said ok and left for another gas station.

However, all the stations near me in a 6 mile area were all affected by the surges. So it makes me wonder what good our cars and pumps will do in a EMP. If the car works then great, but if a gas pump will not work during a simple couple of power surges, how good are they going to hold up to a EMP- we can be literally screwed.

[Bull]

Definitely. If they do work, everybody will probably have used all the gas in no time, because they will be freaking out.

[Matt In Oklahoma]

One might need to look and see what materials are needed to pump out fuel post EMP and have them handy

[Urban Survivalist]

Here in Arizona right now communications are spotty at best. News said that it could be due to strong solar activity. If it gets any stronger were screwed cause my buddy told me today that they even lost the radio for all 911 services for several minutes several times today. Another tell of things to come and prep for.

[Bearman202]

This also speaks to the need to store gas. The problem is lack of space, (living in an apartment) safety, and wondering what will happen when/if I start carrying 5 gallon gas cans out to fuel the vehicle. Nothing like hanging a target on your backside, eh?

[monkeybird]

This is the video in which the survivalist is practicing bugging out. He needs to refuel his vehicle so he made this video in which he learned that sometimes the best plans don't work out. Because of this video, I practiced my own refueling - only to discover that I also had all kinds of problems.

Recently, the same prepper redesigned his refueling plan.

This time it worked great.

I know from hurricanes that when the power is out, gas does not flow without a generator. The lines for gas are looooooooooog, tempers are short, people are fed up and tired. Add to that the necessity for CASH ONLY and you have a time bomb. Numerous fight, some of them violent result from this.

I do keep gas in my garage, but wish I had more.

Perhaps bearman you could wrap your gas cans in a black garbage bag and then drive to a secluded location.

Anyway, I like these video because of the lesson learned by both a novice like me, and the video maker.

[jmsneorrcom]

could you leave the super sipon in all the time and re-fuel on the go?

[Matt In Oklahoma]

This also speaks to the need to store gas. The problem is lack of space, (living in an apartment) safety, and wondering what will happen when/if I start carrying 5 gallon gas cans out to fuel the vehicle. Nothing like hanging a target on your backside, eh?

man you gotta find some LMI to help with that storage issue

[slingshot]

How much gas was left in the bottom of the can?

[Bearman202]

Most modern vehicles used a pressurized fuel system, so you couldn't leave the hose in all the time. I'm not sure what would happen other than the check engine light being on, but someone here probably knows.

[Bearman202]

man you gotta find some LMI to help with that storage issue

What is LMI? I thought about stashing some but that's not a good option for me either. I may pre-position, but I haven't yet. My general feeling is that if things get bad enough that I need to move ops to the bugout location, I'm not going anywhere for a while after that. At least that's the plan right now, which makes more gas kind of unnecessary. I don't have a 600 mile commute to get to it.

[Matt In Oklahoma]

What is LMI? I thought about stashing some but that's not a good option for me either. I may pre-position, but I haven't yet. My general feeling is that if things get bad enough that I need to move ops to the bugout location, I'm not going anywhere for a while after that. At least that's the plan right now, which makes more gas kind of unnecessary. I don't have a 600 mile commute to get to it.

Like Minded Individuals=LMI

[Bill Foster]

Leaving the hose in all the time will not cause any real problems. Yes, the check engine light will come on, the same as when you don't tighten your gas cap after filling up. It sets an evaporative emissions code, not one that will cause any problems. You will have some fumes escape from the filler neck. Those fumes may cause death to the duckies and bunnies, so if you can live with that on your conscience go ahead :-).

[ssonb]

I have a setup that can be used to get gasoline in the event of extended power outages. 1..Get a GM 88 thru 95 model truck in tank electric fuel pump and strainer. 2..20 ft 3/8 fuel line and some hose clamps. 3...Two 12 guage insulated wires 25 ft long one red one black ,equal length. 4.. Two crimp eye connectors for attaching the wire to the pump and two aliagator clamps. 5 ..A handfull of small zip ties . Clamp the hose on the pump outlet,attach the electrical connectors to the ends of the wire and attach to the pump,Red positive + black ground --. now zip tie the wires and fuel hose together along most of the length. Attach the clamps on the other end of the wires. lowering this unit into the in ground fuel tanks thru the fill caps and using either your car battery or a motorcycle battery you can pump 45 to 65 gallons an hour. How you arrange to aquire your fuel is up to you but an agreement with the station owner will be your best bet. These fuel pumps are small and can even be inserted into a 55 gal drum thru the large bung hole.

[Hawk_308]

Im a petroleum tech and Ill do a write up on gas stations when I get time .