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    Camo Test
    Quite often the subject of camouflage comes up. There are areas that need to be looked at no matter the area you are in.
    Three Dimensional camouflage should be used to break up the outlines whenever possible. If possible use the surround foliage to break up the pattern. Look like what is around you. I have seen a sniper spray glue a piece of carpet and stick it to the gravel substance on the rooftop and then lay it on top of him gravel side up to match. Bushes aren't always the answer, match the terrain.

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    Colors and patterns are always important as manufactures and the Military seem to have to learn time and time again. Cool doesn’t cut it. Tiger stripes in grasslands is quickly seen. Desert Camouflage in the woodlands shines. Fancy patterns drawn by a computer and deemed as neat rarely work. Black may or may not work depending on the terrain.

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    Certain parts of our bodies reflect light even with those high dollar fake tans. The face and hands are especially important and are also areas most likely to move during the hunt. Face paint works but is a pain; gloves and facemask are cheap and can be purchased or made to allow as much air as needed for ventilation depending on the weather. It's really important when you have a forehead like mine thats usually covered by a hat!

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    Blending in with surrounding terrain is also important and placing concealment between you and the item you are hiding from will help mask movement. Having items behind you will break up the all too familiar human form as well.

    Make sure you check yours for yourself by either having someone elvaluate you or by taking simple pictures and looking for yourself to see what it/they are seeing.



    These were taken as we left the swampland on this morning’s bowhunt in one of the few places that held water throughout the summer this year. No filled freezer today but the excitement of a 250+lb Boar that managed to circle downwind to us and close to 6 yds before we could actually see him made for an exciting morning!
    Last edited by Matt In Oklahoma; 10-10-2011, 05:42 PM.
    Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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    As always, I enjoy your "well-rounded" approach to survival.
    "It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by barfife View Post
      As always, I enjoy your "well-rounded" approach to survival.
      LOL yep I'm gettin more well rounded with age LOL
      Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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      • #4
        Thanks once again for a great presentation.
        My 2 cents worth, think about what makes you see an animal or person in the woods. Then do what is necessary to conter that. In SAR training we talk about position, shape, shadow, siloutte, color, & texture as being the major factors in how things are seen.
        So wearing dark or neutral colored clothing with a rough nap (not a smooth finish), sitting in shadows, helps as much as expensive cammo clothing (IMHO).
        Thanks again Matt
        PS sounds like fun having the boar come in, good hunting.
        Survival question. What do I need most, right now?

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        • #5
          This is 2 more pictures that demonstrate the need for keeping the face covered and the "glow" of an uncamo'd rifle

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          In spite of the improper camo on the rifle I had 7 deer within 15yds, lucky for them that wasnt my interest that day. I had the wind in my favor as well which is not as important for man, squirrel, rabbit, turkey etc. but very important for other critters that live by their nose such as dog, hog, deer and coyotes etc. Don't forget the smell/wind camo when out and about

          Try and match the terrain size as well. Always be shorter than what you are working with, here I am sitting in scrub oak and from a distance appear as a stump. You dont want to be the "tree" in the grassland, size camo is important as well.
          Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Matt In Oklahoma View Post
            LOL yep I'm gettin more well rounded with age LOL
            That is emergency energy reserves... (at least that is what I tell myselft)

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            • #7
              My best friend used to be a sniper with the SO he worked for, he had an urban gilley suit. It had black trash bags an beer cans glued on it and when needed he would crawl up in an area where the wind would blow things in a corner or up against some thing and make a spot to hide. He told me when he retired it was the first think he threw away, it smelled realy bad.

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              • #8
                A real test of camo,, Can your wife find you!

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                Saw it, Shared it!!
                Do the right thing, because it is the right thing to do!

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                • #9
                  Seriously? Any self-respecting wife would spot those big ole boots on the couch in a nanosecond! :D

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                  • #10
                    Good point!!
                    Do the right thing, because it is the right thing to do!

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                    • #11
                      Any opinions on multicam? I personally think it is great, and wish it had been adopted instead of the current military UCP. Thoughts?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by max velocity View Post
                        Any opinions on multicam? I personally think it is great, and wish it had been adopted instead of the current military UCP. Thoughts?
                        I think you should take it out in the environment you will operate in with someone who will tell it to you straight and not be impressed with the coolio factor and then between them and the animals, who will never be impressed, you are able to get close to the choice will be made. I am convinced that animals can see the sharp lines of the digital. Every year i see guys who come and hunt with their new camo. The key is that i "see" them running around with chocolate chips in the woodline, ACUs that dont even come close to the color of whats there, guys in "urban" while things are green and enough contractor sand caps bobbing across the brush hundreds of miles away from dunes to fill my patience bucket all the way to the top. I have to reread the hunting regs every year to make sure i cant bag an idiot who thinks he's cool and the deer and i are impressed with their pocket book or maybe new found service. Find what works even if it's from the Evil Empire of Wallie World and go from there. I use animals as a reference because they are better than us in most senses.
                        Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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                        • #13
                          less is more

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                          • #14
                            Matt, that is a really good point about the Coolio factor. The multicam does not have the digital but it does have the chocolate chips. I think that if I was not sure what environment I was going to be in, or was going to be transiting across environments, then I would choose multicam. But if I knew I was going to be in the woods, the good old woodland BDU is excellent, its just not cool anymore.

                            My favorite clothing item? $11 woodland camo cargo shorts from Wally World!

                            But I am nearly 40 and I am never cool anymore anyway, so I don't worry about it.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by max velocity View Post
                              But if I knew I was going to be in the woods, the good old woodland BDU is excellent, its just not cool anymore.

                              But I am nearly 40 and I am never cool anymore anyway, so I don't worry about it.
                              I did a test, posted in another thread where I pitted some modern camo against each other. In the woodlands of Germany, the M81 BDU pattern was king. Multicam was too light for deep dark woods. But like you said, it does perform well in a variety of environments. Doesn't excel in any one in particular, but does well enough to be universal. I also find regular earth tones do well across a variety of environments. Olive drab, sage green, different shades of brown, even khaki in selected areas. Biggest thing is breaking up your silhouette against the background, so having some foliage between you and whatever you are facing is paramount.
                              Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.

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