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    I have been involved in teaching survival skills since 1974, longevity in it self doesn't mean much, but I have started many fires using many methods in many environments.
    I feel that if you practice starting fires with primitive means, that if you do have your "guaranteed-mini-nuclear-blast-match" and use the same principals your chance of success are higher.
    So some principals; start small & work-up. I have seen many students confuse small to mean short in length not small in diameter. So now I say something like "nothing shorter than the length from the tip of your outstretched thumb to the tip of your little finger & and smaller in diameter than 1/2 the size of a pencil or smaller."
    Always use some type of a platform or base for you tinder. If you do this in dry conditions then when it's wet you have greater success.
    I always use a tepee shape when starting as the heat is concentrated at the apex, and helps start the bigger kindling pieces better.
    Usually if you are getting a lot of smoke and no flame your fire is not getting enough oxygen. Spread out the wood to allow for more surface area to be exposed and blow on it gently but forcefully.
    But you say I don't need to know how to use a flint & steel or other primitive method because I always have my________(fill in the blank) with me. OK but is that really true.
    I also believe that practice while maybe not making you perfect does make you better when the chips are down.
    I hope this gives you some food for thought.
    Survival question. What do I need most, right now?

  • #2
    Originally posted by EX121 View Post
    So now I say something like "nothing shorter than the length from the tip of your outstretched thumb to the tip of your little finger & and smaller in diameter than 1/2 the size of a pencil or smaller."
    I think you meant LONGER... :-)

    Primitive firestarting has been a love/hate for me... Good tinder is usually the biggest hurdle in the wilds and what LOOKS dry is often NOT, making things harder than it should. The support base is also good advice, as I sometimes seem to get magnesium flying everywhere when I accidentally hit my platform... Then have to do the finger drag to re-pile it... DOH!

    Never did a bow & string or rubbing wood yet...

    Rmpl
    -=> Rmplstlskn <=-

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    • #3
      Been working on it. Posted some stuff recently on different methods. It finally broke the drought here so I will be able to safely practice some more methods soon and hopefully get some better video on it too. Them dang stick rubbings still evade me though. Pretty sure I'm gonna die because i can't find willow or whatever for this part or that. I'm convinced that my tribe had lightening and only used sticks for clubs:)
      Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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      • #4
        Nope I mean nothing shorter. My experience is that when students use 2-3 inch or shorter twigs as kindling the sticks all fall together in a pile and don't allow enough air flow. So I recommend 8-9 inch long twigs. Part of this can be prevented by using a large tinder bundle or 'birdsnest' thus requiring larger sticks be used in the next stage of building the fire.
        I think my favorite tinder to carry is dryer lint impregnated with vaseline, with pitchwood (fatwood) a close second.
        I try and get some pictures and post them, sorry no video camera.
        Survival question. What do I need most, right now?

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        • #5
          I have never been able to make fire with two sticks. I have made a really hot to the touch stick but no smoke and flame. I give our ancestors props. Man I'm all about the easy ways. I.E. flints, magnesium, vaseline cotton balls, matches, gas, nitro, flares, lightening, or having a person that can get fire from two sticks with you.
          When an emergency is upon you the time for preparation has past.

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          • #6
            Yep, I think what I learned most from starting a fire with a bow & drill is to always have some other method with me. I still use the same process wither I'm using primitive methods or more modern. I do carry a road flare in my GMHB because there are some times when you do need a fire quickly.
            Survival question. What do I need most, right now?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by EX121 View Post
              with pitchwood (fatwood) a close second. I try and get some pictures and post them, sorry no video camera.
              I would like to see some of the pitchwood stuff please
              Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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              • #8
                Ok I need an excuse to get out in the woods, I'll find some and take pictures.
                Survival question. What do I need most, right now?

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