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    There are events that have stood out in my mind as training success'. I would like to share one with you that combines communication, hands on fighting skills, workouts, firearms training and hunting knowledge.

    I was hunting with a friend, his son (my namesake) and my son a few years ago. My friend and his son shot a nice doe from an elevated position at a considerable distance. I reached them but did not see the exact point where she fell. I decided it would be best for me to go down where she was and let them talk me in on the radio rather than chance losing our point of reference as things look different once you go into the valley from the hilltop as we have learned from past hunts. I notified my son via radio who stated he would join them on the hilltop. As I was proceeding the area where she lay I heard on my radio an excited call of "Dad there's a buck running at you from the right" and there was a nice 160lb 8 point who began quartering away at about 80yds. I fired and dropped him with a good hit, from the 30-06 165gr sp, which was also called on the radio by my son (aka sniper/spotter team). As I approached my buck he was still wheezing and I slung my rifle across my back took an antler in one hand from his back position and took my knife in my other hand to dispatch him quickly as we hunters have a duty to do.

    About this time he decided he wasn't done for and stood up and the fight was on. I held the antler for fear of being gorged by a frontal charge, as we circled I dropped the knife rolled back on my heels and drew my EDC concealed Glock from my serpa and fired one round into the pumpstation from the side hold CQC position. It thankfully had a devastating effect and dropped him without a quiver.

    I heard on the radio "Uncle Matt that was the coolest thing I ever saw"! I later learned my son was running towards me as soon as the buck got up to save ole dad while those 2 stood on the hill and watched.

    I immediately felt an ole friend I hadn't heard from in a while, called the adrenaline dump, coming and threw up. My son reached me seeing me shaken and went to work wordlessly on the deer and recovering the original doe while dad regained his composure before the other 2 reached us.

    Everything played into that brief moment of excitement. I have been in other things much worse but this was one I feel I can share. All of my combined skills allowed me to walk away from that event with food and confidence in my equipment and those around me. There are failures in what happened too and those have been corrected as well with additionl thoughts, efforts and training.

    My final thoughts are: train as you will fight, know your equipment, down is down and don't wait till something bad happens before working together.
    Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

  • #2
    People have asked me why I always put a second shot in a deer before I leave the stand or approach it too closely. Your story is a great illustration of why you do that.
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    • #3
      LOL Matt! Not saying who, but one night a long time ago some high school boys were out spotlighting deer in the Ozarks with .22's. They put a shot 6-pointer in the back of pickup and covered it with a tarp. Had to stop in town to replace the gas they had burned up in their Daddy's truck. That deer got up and started thrashing around under the tarp. One kid opened his pocket knife and dove under the tarp to kill the deer. The other kid threw down the pump nozzle on the ground and dove for the cab to drive the truck away from the pumps where a lot of people were. There was a Battle Royal going on in the back of the truck under the tarp, sounded like a train wreck on the metal bed. The kid under the tarp killed the deer but stabbed himself in the hand doing it, bad gash. LOL

      The driver ran back to the station, put the nozzle back in the pump, paid the clerk for the gas just in time before he called the cops. It was a pretty wild scene. LOL

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      • #4
        hahahaha well I guess that started hand to hand and knife fighting early on huh and making sure down is down LOL
        Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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        • #5
          Glad it turned out for you Matt. This is a convincing story to carry a side arm when hunting.
          I have thought about it but have never came to actually carrying a pistol with me.
          Come to think of it, I don't know any hunter who does, out here in my neck of the woods.
          A desire changes nothing, a decision changes some thing's, but determination changes everything.

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          • #6
            It's illegal here during bow season.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by biathlon View Post
              It's illegal here during bow season.
              Here to with the exception of CCW and LEOs
              Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cimarron View Post
                Glad it turned out for you Matt. This is a convincing story to carry a side arm when hunting.I have thought about it but have never came to actually carrying a pistol with me.Come to think of it, I don't know any hunter who does, out here in my neck of the woods.
                The truth is I can take a rifle, a couple of rds and a bottle of water go out for an hour in the evening and morning sit on a feeder with a timer and do good. Half of the "hunters" don't even have a full loaded gun but have 3 beers while they "hunt". I probably could done it with the knife but my training told me the quickest/safest way was the familar weight on my hip.
                Since retiring from the military, this is one time of the year when I can carry my GMHB which is also my hunting pack and my guns and all my gear and live with it and test it and no one looks sideway at you. I carry a pistol as a way of life and have since I was young. Can't see not carrying one anymore than my knife, pocket tool, flashlight etc, especially when we do not know when the moment we will be tested is. You might be like the guy in Az and just be shopping, you might be like the Aussie and just be minding your own when a wall of water hits, you might be at a school picking uo the kids and bang Columbine all over again, etc. all we will have is what we have. You, of all, should know that being an Oklahoman living with tornandos, terrorist and other stuff. It happens fast and there are only 2 side when it does, winners and losers, victims or heros etc. Even if you are not convinced of total SHTF the events we are supposedly preparing for will happen quick. What happens if you go to Sams in T town and SHTF or an event happens, you gonna John Wayne a lever gun you retrieve from behind the PU seat all the way home while driving? Handguns are easier, they are not comforatable but comforting someone once said.
                "No matter what I and all of mine go home" is and has been my mindset since 19yrs old.
                Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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                • #9
                  I see now this wasn't just a deer hunting topic, but also a "be prepared" topic too. I'm not very perceptive some times :o

                  I have had some idea of getting a concealed carry but so far have not.

                  I live in a rural area that you can leave your car running outside a store, with the door open, come back outside and it'll still be there. Yes going to a "big city" multiplies your chances of having a conflict, my trips there are only a few a year so I rule that out. If the bottom drops out in the world, I would start to carry and not worry about a license...probably everyone else would too. I could have a false sense of security thinking if something bad happens I won't need a gun.

                  Not sure what you meant by this:
                  "You, of all, should know that being an Oklahoman living with tornado's, terrorist and other stuff."
                  A desire changes nothing, a decision changes some thing's, but determination changes everything.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cimarron View Post
                    Not sure what you meant by this:"You, of all, should know that being an Oklahoman living with tornado's, terrorist and other stuff."
                    What I meant brother was we (Okies) have endured alot in the past years. There are more "events" here than in many parts of the country/world. These events should make us more aware, preparded and ready at all times than others from more peaceful or weather lacking places who have not had the above list in their lives. We live in a place where we can carry but soooo many don't. I can see that from some who shy away from responsibilty to themselves and others but from a "survivalist"? I get discouraged at times and get on my soapbox to much maybe, ok alot, but alot are talking but not walking. I aint trying to dog no one but hoping for a pickup in the pace.
                    I chatted with another the other day who claims prepper for TEOTWAWKI but carries no gun, knife, pocket tool etc. She just has a bunch of food on the shelves, which is more than some but still. Whats the plan to make sure you get back to the food and then hold the food? I dunno, I'll quit my ramblings
                    Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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                    • #11
                      Matt, first off, I see no soap box, or you "dogging" anybody.What I think I see is, you are trying to convince folks to start, and then encourage others to keep preparing that they and their family would have food, shelter, and security in times of disaster... If that's a bad thing the world is upside down.

                      Besides, this is a discussion board, were just discussin stuff ;)

                      I think the term Survivalist gets used in a pretty broad term. People have some things and maybe know how to pitch a tent and start a fire and they consider them selves a survivalist. Shoot, some people may have a gun and a bunch of bullets and they think they are the real survivalist. I don't have a hard set rule my self what that definition is, I do try to cover the bases although I am probably missing a lot. of course I am just getting started at just over a year and a half. A family member has a CCW and has a pair of 40's and a hunting rifle that likes to camp out. Are they a survivalist? Sure. Are they as prepared as other? Probably not, but I have spoken to them about the 'extras' and they are coming around.

                      I don't have a CCW now. Will I get one? Probably, I have thought about it a lot lately for both me and my wife. I believe the carrying a fire arm for most folks is a thought process we have to come to. You know we have been "conditioned' by society over the years to depend on others (law enforcement)
                      more and more.

                      My turn to ramble haha
                      A desire changes nothing, a decision changes some thing's, but determination changes everything.

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                      • #12
                        When I first started in prepping a long time ago, I would try to awaken people that were close to me to get started in that direction. I evolved to the point to where I am now about concern for others. I don't even mention it anymore. I let the other person initiate the conversation, and we talk about it, but I never divulge my preps. I help them think about theirs, don't ridicule them, and try to make suggestions if I'm able to think of something that might help. Too many weird looks and snide remarks over the years. My immediate family that lives in this house are the only ones that know anything. I guess I'm a little cynical!
                        Last edited by slingshot; 01-19-2011, 11:05 PM.

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