MOLLE mistakes

[Lowdown3]

Recently did a fair amount of ground fighting while in fighting gear. Smacking each other with rifles, fighting for grip on pistol and training knives, etc.

It used to be my "habit" of firmly attaching pouches, etc. with both the MOLLE straps as well as electrical ties.

I got out of that habit.

I'm now back into that habit....

By the third five minute round of rolling around on the dirt fighting for control of knife, pistol, rifle, there wasn't anything that was just attached using the MOLLE straps and snaps still attached to my chest rig.


11" thin black cable ties aka electrical ties weaved through the MOLLE attachment points, pulled tight and the end sniped off, goes a long way towards ensuring your pouches won't end up leaving your vest or plate carrier.

Also, I discussed it previously in the videos I did regarding shooting from the ground but it's an important point to bring back up-

Be able to access your backup weapon (pistol) easily from the ground.

If CCW'ing during a normal every day context, this may mean appendix carry in the front. No it won't knock you in the bean bag unless you have a Rick Grimes size revolver.

When you are on your back and the arms have to go to the side to access a weapon- be it a knife or pistol- it makes it extremely easy to pin the arm down, do any number of arm and shoulder locks, etc. That being said, you CAN still access your weapon on your side or hip but some movement is usually involved.

It doesn't matter if you have any ground experience or not. It doesn't take the mind long to go "WEAPON!" and bring all attention to the weapon in order to disarm or control it.

Here is where good technique to sweep, get a reversal, go "hands on" first can help.

[Rmplstlskn]

That is some serious fight training... I have not heard of many who do it with battle rattle, which really is smart, as it will be your most clumsiest and obstacle-ridden situation when in a scuffle in a serious SHTF time...

Something I have learned... Zip ties are NOT created equal... The cheap ones have a PLASTIC lock latch that doesn't take much to break. Lowes and other places usually also carry the more expensive zip ties with a STEEL latch. These are very strong and bite into the plastic further as it is pulled...

I think the Tactical Tailor MALICE clips are an exception. They lock down like a zip tie, no snaps to come unsnapped. But they are a PITA to thread and latch, but once latched, they are very secure. One down side is the 1" tab part that sticks below or above the MOLLE. They can really dig into you if your setup is not modded to cover it...



Below is the mod I did to my TT chest rig so the MALICE clips wouldn't dig into my not-at-fighting-weight gut...

[Lowdown3]

Nice!!!

I'll find out soon how well the zip ties hold up in a similar instance.

Yeah fighting on the ground pretty much sucks WITHOUT gear on. It's fun on mats, a lot different on concrete or hard dirt.

I've seen people do crazy stuff on matted surfaces that I would never consider on pavement or the actual ground i.e, forward roll over their head/neck versus the shoulder. Break fall and slap the mats, etc. All stupid things on pavement or hard dirt/gravel.

You can expect considerably more bruising when working on pavement or ground versus a matted surface. We are used to regular bruising doing what we do, but after that session my back looked like a Dalmatian... :)

Another important factor on gear and the ground is being able to shed gear while in an extremely low profile on the ground. Whether prone or supine, you should be able to change mags, clear jams, take off gear, etc. while keeping low.

A drill I did with the boy to get him used to this sort of thing was setting a broomstick up about 12 inches above the ground supported by chairs. Then showed him how to work 360 on the ground with a rifle while not bumping the broomstick.

Think limbo limbostick deal without the dance :)

[protus]

Yeah...I gotta agree....malice clips rock. But even if they do UN snap...they hold. You buy em and add a few to the weave and snap style pouches.

I ran zip ties /still do on some pouches...after my dive to cover...shoot...move..go to .reload and "wtf...where's my mags " episode a few years back. LOL.
Nice mod on the vest rmpl.