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  • ESSENTIAL bug out bag contents 4... REALITY

    As many of you may have gathered the "Essential bug out bag" series was a series of videos done in jest. A parody of soo many BOB videos over populating the net. Initially my intent was to take the series farther and have it end in the use of a deer cart grossly over loaded with all the "necessities" of the modern prepper. However, the membership of this forum saw right through my excesses and immediately yet very politely chastised me for being unrealistic. What great members we have here.
    If you don't already know it I live in The Peoples Republic of Kalifornia, Southern District. As such I am faced with certain challenges that are unique to this area in regards to forced relocation or "Bugging Out". Without getting bogged down in the obvious IE. I should not be here to begin with I have taken the most logical approach that I possibly can and it DOESN'T involve a 100lb BOB.
    Assuming that the event does not allow one to un arse the AO ahead of time you must face the reality that you probably won't be driving to safety and you won't be carrying a 100lb BOB leading the wife and child through the seemingly never ending urban jungle. If you have delusions that you can do this successfully then what I say next WILL offend you. Your an idiot and because of your propensity for fantasy prepping YOU will be solely responsible for the deaths of your wife and children. Now having said that I do not believe that ALL is lost. Prior planning, REALISTIC prior planning can go a very long ways to solve this nightmare. 1. forget about walking and forget about deer carts, wheel barrows and wagons. 2. Embrace the reality of the Cache.

    Caches: placed at regular intervals along primary and secondary avenue's of travel are in my opinion the ONLY solution to traveling any serious distance. Place them at distances that you can walk not ride or drive in a car. Why? planning!! what if Murphy decides to join the party and you end up walking but your caches are 25-50 miles apart because you calculated you could easily ride that distance in 2 days. Drive the route you intend to take but also walk and ride at least parts of it. Is it possible for every one who is going to bug out 50-300 miles to ride the entire route? Probably not. Have I ridden my entire route? NO!! but I have driven it several times, walked portions of it, explored side roads, creek beds, ravines, tree stands etc. I'm talking about terrain features and truly understanding what is along your path of travel. Driving 100 miles doesn't seem like much but stop every 10 miles and get out and touch the ground, go check out that drainage culvert or the hilltop that has a commanding view of the entire valley. Speed is life and the lighter you are the faster you move. If you have caches you do not need to carry as much supplies SIMPLE.

    Speed: assuming travel is during serious civil unrest speed and stealth are "super important". This is where the unglamorous yet very practical mountain bike comes into its own. when equipped with panniers front and rear as well as possibly the addition of a small trailer or preferably a "third wheel" this is simply a third wheel that you tow behind your bike that additional panniers can be mounted to. Granted, not as much weight carrying ability but if you placed caches this isn't a negative. With a bike so equipped you could easily carry the magical 100lbs if you choose as well as a 35lb assault/patrol pack. Little jimmy can carry his own supplies AND travel farther than he ever could walking. If someone gets hurt and can't walk they often can still ride however if they can't then you can still rig up a litter between two bikes and push them.

    Ideally you/we I should not be in a built up area where these risks exist. Sometimes though you have to work with what you have. Your first plan should be to relocate BEFORE you are forced to. Short of that, plan accordingly and inject massive amounts of reality into your plans. Fantasy is fun but save it for the office football league and sci-fi movies.

    Just my opinion so please chime in and tell us what YOU think

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    Congrats, you pulled me in! I had regulated myself to just compliment the rest of your videos because I didn't want to be a downer all the time. Call me the fish that got hooked I suppose!

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    • #3
      perhaps creman,, you were also one of the ones injecting some logical comments regarding weight and item selection. Did you get sucked in ? perhaps, but you also made some valid and realistic points. Thanks for your comments!

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      • #4
        Things like that are excellent for discussion. Don't kid yourself, for every one of the regular members here that knew some of that was bad, there was 10 lurkers that wondered "what's wrong with 7,000 rounds in your pack?"

        I'd be lying if I said I didn't encounter that sort of thing a lot in the movement today. Few are getting out and DOING things, and often times we don't find out until we DO, what works and what doesn't.

        Insert Russian accent- "We can either THINK we know, or we CAN KNOW."

        With this serious of a subject- we HAVE to know.
        Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"

        Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

        Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

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        • #5
          agree 100% admin... the motivation or the straw that broke the back was seeing preppers with 100lb main packs and 50lb patrol packs operating under a complete fantasy that they will bug out with that load when the time comes. OOh and this couple in particular both had medical issues but that didn't matter because they were going to drive out of town..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by justanothergunnut View Post
            agree 100% admin... the motivation or the straw that broke the back was seeing preppers with 100lb main packs and 50lb patrol packs operating under a complete fantasy that they will bug out with that load when the time comes. OOh and this couple in particular both had medical issues but that didn't matter because they were going to drive out of town..

            flash back to doomsday losers- esp# oh dang i blew my thumb off...ouchy.

            guy is loading his "bug out trailer" or sitting inhis garage. there goes 3-4 identical molle2 or large alices packed to the brim into the trailer.
            now. some of us know how heavy those packs can be when over loaded.

            if guys arent shoving 50-75lbs into a super large ruck. they are lashing 50-75lbs of stuff to a "patrol" sized ruck.


            hosting hikes you could really see reality set in around the 3-5 mile mark on many that just followed what they read/saw online.
            Hey Petunia...you dropped your man pad!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by justanothergunnut View Post
              Caches: placed at regular intervals along primary and secondary avenue's of travel are in my opinion the ONLY solution to traveling any serious distance. Place them at distances that you can walk not ride or drive in a car. Why? planning!! what if Murphy decides to join the party and you end up walking but your caches are 25-50 miles apart because you calculated you could easily ride that distance in 2 days. Drive the route you intend to take but also walk and ride at least parts of it. Is it possible for every one who is going to bug out 50-300 miles to ride the entire route? Probably not. Have I ridden my entire route? NO!! but I have driven it several times, walked portions of it, explored side roads, creek beds, ravines, tree stands etc. I'm talking about terrain features and truly understanding what is along your path of travel. Driving 100 miles doesn't seem like much but stop every 10 miles and get out and touch the ground, go check out that drainage culvert or the hilltop that has a commanding view of the entire valley. Speed is life and the lighter you are the faster you move. If you have caches you do not need to carry as much supplies SIMPLE.
              Be careful and observe your cache location before you deposit your cache and when you go to retrieve it. You don't want prying eyes in either instance.

              What happens if you get to your cache and there are people squatting on that location?

              Do you wait or do you move on?

              How close are your cache's to each other?

              I ask this because you might consider closing the gaps on cache locations or make 2 deposits in a 200 yd area as long as they are hidden from view of each other and all that other tacticool thinking. Just like having alternate routes.

              Get your initial cache setup on your primary & secondary routes then consider doubling up on cache locations as time/money allow.
              "It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar

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              • #8
                Good Gotcha' thread... I was really starting to think you a delusional loon, but knowing your previous posts here, I didn't want to think that... LOL!

                As for Caches... My problem with them is that I don't know what "scenario" will send me bugging out... And different scenarios may send me in different directions. I do not have ONE central big out location. I have friends in all areas of the compass that would welcome me in, which I choose depends on what went wrong and what location has the best POTENTIAL for survival of the event that brought bugging out as the best option. For even some of my bug out locations (friends) have MY LOCATION as a bug out location, if the need for THEM to bug out happens. It is a tangled web of "possibles" and "odds..."

                Plus, sad to say, I only have a handful that I would TRUST as a bug out location stash site... Most are probably hoping that if I bug out, that it will be BEFORE it gets bad so I can load up and DRIVE my stuff over to them (as all Survivalists covet somewhat another survivalists gear and preps). For there is NO WAY stuff will get from point A to point B without vehicle assistance, especially if one considers tools, equipment, etc... as valid items that may be needed in a PAW scenario. And some stuff can't be cached... It is either here or there, and if it is there, it is of no use to anyone here, etc...

                Did I say how often and fervently I PRAY and PETITION YHWH that where he has placed me is where I will BUG IN? And if I do have to move, that it may be like the Hebrews leaving Egypt, for they used carts and wagons...

                Bugging Out is the worst survival SOLUTION I can imagine...

                Rmpl
                -=> Rmplstlskn <=-

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