ESSENTIAL bug out bag contents 2 Guns and Ammo

[610Alpha]

At the 1:30 mark you will hear "if you don't have a 1911 you are not a really serious survivalist".

So as long as you own a 1911 you are a serious survivalist :confused:. Are we clear on that class :cool:? Any questions?

Got 1911? No oh well you are not a really serious survivalist.

Sorry I just couldn't help myself. I am poking fun so don't any one get your knickers in a bunch and if you do that's your problem :)

[justanothergunnut]

well it is a .45 just sayin!!

[creman]

good grief man! Why so many guns, and why so much ammo? If you plan on getting in a war do you have the body armor, backup, community, and resupply to support all that ammo? If you get in a real gun fight, you won't have time to use all of those rounds before you die unless you have full body armor, the training, and a medic...even then...

It's ok to have a bunch of ammo, but go ahead and put it in your BO location. You'd be better off switching some space and weight for water/food/medical supplies/and clothes. I thought I carried too much battle rattle.

[justanothergunnut]

I do have medical and food and water. I will do a video of those also but I'm out of town right now and don't have my bag with me. I also have body armor AND more ammo at my retreat.

[creman]

Point being, that's more ammo than a battle load. You say it feels good "around the house" but you really should hike with it. the weight will take care of itself. If that's what you want to hike with then fine, but I just don't see the purpose or need. There is so much more I would rather pack.

[justanothergunnut]

What else would you pack crewman?? I haven't gotten into the rest of the bag either. I have food water filtration. Medical. Comms. Solar. Batteries. It's not like I'm just taking ammo.

[hidden_waldo]

In the bug out scenario, there will become a limit of what you can carry, manage and defend.

If I am understanding the OP's replies, 100 pounds is manageable for a BOB, not going to debate or argue it if that is good or bad; just going to go with it.

So out of that 100 pound payload, about 40+ pounds of it is tied up in Firearms and Ammo. For most people, that weight would be their whole BOB load out weight; for him it is only 40% of his total carry weight.

I'm interested to see what makes up the rest of the bag contents.

[Lowdown3]

I think you ought to add a .22 rifle in there, a couple dozen more magazines for the pistol (going to town can be dangerous) and definitely some more ammo...

And where is your shotgun? Everyone carries a shotgun strapped to their packs now a days also :)

[creman]

Well for instance, this cold snap we've had (our second one here in GA just hit) would really suck if I didn't have good sleep system and warmth in my bag. These things take up volume, even though they're not heavy. I would drop 20lbs of ammo to put in an extra blanket or 2. How much water do you have, because If I'm bugging out I don't want to have to stop and filter water on my way. Ever ran with 100lbs on your back? It sucks, and when I say "run" I mean shuffle and almost trip on ant hills. If someone started shooting at you, you wouldn't have a chance to get away because of all the ammo and guns you're taking. It's counter productive.

I'm only telling you this because I had a 90lb pack myself. I started doing some drills and things, now I have made a system of bags. I have a war belt that I can live off of for 3 days, a "battle pack" that only has 240 rounds of ammo in it in magazines, 2 days of food, maps, compass, water bladder, and then I have my heavy INCH bag that is comfort/tools, more food, more water, duplicate filters, more warmth, etc... Basically I have a similar mindset as you do to take lots of items; but I've come to realize if those items get me killed what's the point? I just want to encourage you to take it hiking, run a little, get down in the woods like you're hiding and pop back up. You'll see what I'm saying. I'm just trying to help.
1000 rounds is not essentiels, and you'll break your weight down to only what you need. I'm not saying don't carry guns and ammo, just don't focus on that as much. You'll most likely die from starvation, disease, and lack of water before we have a Red Dawn scenerio in the U.S.

To answer your question. Things I see people don't pack that are important TO ME that I would replace for bullets:
Bible (I have a small pocket bible in my pack at all times)
First Aid (people usually have a small kit, but it would be gone after one minor injury like a knife cut or small infection; which are both more likely if your bugging out.)
over the counter pain pills, cause going from an office job or job in a shop to walking/running/ducking all day is going to hurt
masks for flu/contamination
fire kit redundancy, PJ cotton balls
now that I have a daughter, diapers/formula/butt paste (good for other uses)/extra clothes for her
trade goods (you have some ammo at least! food would probably go further)
enough food and water to not have to really stop for a while because if I'm moving out on foot something is very wrong. I don't want to let it catch me.
Passport/Drivers permit/important documents you need to function in the real world/list of phone numbers in case your phone dies. All this can be put on a thumb drive for later
I haven't seen your sleep system yet. Stay dry, warm, and as comfortable as you can.
Coffee? Caffine? you're going to need to stay awake and get rid of those headaches if you already drink these things
Fishing kit?
Trapping kit?
Vitamins?
simple tools like a ratchet set, crowbar, things you'll need to "rebuild society" or even to fix a car later
last and not least, extra room in your pack for anything you may find on the way that you want.

Lots of options that I see as more important than a few thousand bullets. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, I really am trying to help out. Keep a rifle, a good pistol, and some WD-40 to clean em up (depending what type you have) and a few spare parts you should be set. Have enough ammo to get you to your BO location and restock there. If you can bring down the lbs you'll be much happier in the end.

[protus]

I disagree on the 22... I think a pellet gun with a 500 round tin of pellets would be a better idea...it would weigh less and that's important with pack weights.

[justanothergunnut]

all very good points creman.. Thank you for the post. Maybe I could trim SOME of the ammo since I have more mags on my plate carrier. I will consider this especially since it gives me more room for other items..

[justanothergunnut]

I disagree on the 22... I think a pellet gun with a 500 round tin of pellets would be a better idea...it would weigh less and that's important with pack weights.

a very good point also protus.. I was considering a crossman pellet pistol. It weighs very little and is great for hunting small animals. My bug out plan depends on hunting and foraging and small animals are very prevalent in the southern Kalifornia foothills which is part of the area I will have to travel through.

[Hawkeye]

I'm just gonna go sit in my chair over here in the corner and sip on my coffee.... -------------------->

[Lowdown3]

I'm guessing there is a small chance this might be in jest....

[protus]

I'm guessing there is a small chance this might be in jest....

Hmmmmmmm......off to remove the shotgun from the back of my pack.:p