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i recently bought a MSS, military sleep system. its 2 sleeping bags and 1 bivy bag with a stuff sack. I HAVE NOT HEAVILY FEILD TESTED IT YET. the total combo is very heavy about 10 lbs but its rated down to -30 f for 4 hours if the user is in poly pros. if they are in a parka/ski pants type gear the figure is -50 f.
I live in florida I'll never need both bags at the same time. the green bag is a 30 degree (in poly pros) and the black a 0 degree. dead of winter the black one should be fine, in spring and fall the green one and in the summer I won't use the system at all."You are the Vice Regent of the Jews" -QRPRAT77
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I have field tested them in the green machine. I kept mine and paid for it when I got out if that tells you anything. The gortex outer shell rocks! The 2 bags combined, I dunno how cold it has to get to stay in there sealed but i never got there even when it was sleeting. that thing ran me outta it! If I had a complaint it would be to add alittle more room for clothes and canteens etc. thats about itOriginally posted by Sgl21-61 View Posti recently bought a MSS, military sleep system. its 2 sleeping bags and 1 bivy bag with a stuff sack. I HAVE NOT HEAVILY FEILD TESTED IT YET. the total combo is very heavy about 10 lbs but its rated down to -30 f for 4 hours if the user is in poly pros. if they are in a parka/ski pants type gear the figure is -50 f.I live in florida I'll never need both bags at the same time. the green bag is a 30 degree (in poly pros) and the black a 0 degree. dead of winter the black one should be fine, in spring and fall the green one and in the summer I won't use the system at all.Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence
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I'll throw in a couple pense worth here. I bought one of the big, down-filled types that comes in its own plastic carrying thing. I took it camping. We walked about a quarter to half a mile from the car, though a hollow, and by the time I was there, I was nearly dead from carrying the thing. Plus, it wouldn't fit into anything going on the back, so it took up a free hand that could have been used to carry the extra o2 that I desperately needed by the time I got half-way to where we were going. Then, when we reached the site, I ended up sleeping on top of it, because it wasn't that cold. Made a decent enough pad, but it wasn't worth its weight.
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Protus, once again I'm impressed by your knowledge and clear advice when it comes to gear and such. Thank you for that!
The only thing that comes to mind that I don't think you considered (except for your comment if they zip together) is a double-wide sleeping bag that zips apart and the body warmth of two people if they sleep together in one decent bag. I have a Kelty Double Wide rated at 35 and I'm confident that we'd be fine down to the teens or less. idk, just rambling a bit... but it crossed my mind so I thought I'd say it.
I'm sure that weight would still be a little more compared to the more expensive lightweight bags. It still might be a viable option...
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The reason why the manufacturer suggests non-bio detergent for washing the sleeping bag is b/c it is gentler and will not destroy the fibers of the material. There are brands on the market like All Clear, Arm and Hammer, Dreft and Persil Small and Mighty make non-bio detergents. Be sure on the Persil brand to make sure it is the blue bottle.
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I read a lot of people saying to go with Wiggys, but it must not have been here, because I haven't seen any mention of them. Hopefully I didn't get sucked in by the hype, but I just ordered one and it looks very nice. Very well made. I just got it and haven't had a chance to use it in the field yet, so I really can't say how good it is. Maybe you would like to check it out though. http://wiggys.com/category.cfm?category=6
If anyone else can chime in on this it would be great, cause I really hope I didn't get ripped off spending that much. Thanks.
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since i posted last I've used mine a couple of times and so far i love it. on a campout it was in the mid 40s the 1st night and mid 20s the second night. Mid 20s here is worst case temps for the area of florida. 1st night i used the bivy and the green bag ontop of a therma rest wannabe pad. the second night I used the back bag. both nights I was toasty warm. I was so warm the second night i was completely oblivious to the cold out side the bag."You are the Vice Regent of the Jews" -QRPRAT77
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