new bug-out-bag thread

[Cimarron]

When you are building a GHB (get home bag) are you guys packing it around the miles you have to go?
It looks like your not putting a lot of cooking type gear in and are packing food that doesn't require heating up.

I need to build one for my wife from her work to home so weight is something to remember..although she is pretty stout :p

I could be wrong but I was thinking like Matt and building the get home rig a little lighter.
Any tips?

[Christian for Israel]

host the pics on photobucket and link to them here. anybody can do it. i look forward to seeing your kit.

[RyanMac]

Thanks for the input guys. After I logged off I thought that I had jacked your thread. I apologize. I was just rambling/typing. I didn't mean to take it off BOB's, which is what it was supposed to be.
@ Matt - got your message, sent one back. But I will email later.
@ Christian - I will definitely learn from this experience. And I agree with your first sentence. Reality sucks sometimes.

Now, back to the wonderful thread of bug out bags. I will be modifying mine this week (great idea for CHRISTmas week!). I will see if I can post pics when I do. Not sure if I've been on here long enough or not. But I will give it a try.

Peace.

[Christian for Israel]

the danger with letting too many people know what you have or plan is they may one day try to take it...and you'll have to shoot them. i agree that we'll need each other after the SHTF but keep information about your set up to a minimum (OPSEC) and always let them know you'll nev er give up without a fight.

[Matt In Oklahoma]

@RyanMac I left you a notification message awhile back -e-mail me brother
I have some answers on that "Freinds" thing too, I have had the same issues with one going over the deep end and one becoming a leech/zombie

[RyanMac]

I agree with the 10 miles. I have humped many more in the Marine Corps Infantry (been 3-4 years). But on a recent exercise we averaged 11 miles with full gear (minus weapon/ammo) for a few days. I like both kits. I think I will use a few things here/there.
Also, @ Matt. With that set up -maybe if you ever need to bug out to NE Oklahoma we should start getting to know each other. Seriously. I am always on the lookout for "friends". Especially since I just lost 2 key "friends" due to them being crazy.
Which brings up a question. What do you do when "friends" wig out and now know some (not all) of your plans/ideas/gear? I have read a few scenarios (Cow wars, JWR, when the lights go out, etc...). I don't like the options. But what can you do versus changing up locations of a few key things? Of course, I would hope that they get their act together before anything hits a fan. But human nature is SO unpredictable. The good news (maybe bad?) is that they were depending more on me than me on them.

[Christian for Israel]

i also consider 10 miles a day to be optimal. too many people plan to travel 20-30 miles a day and that may be possible...for the first day or so. if they have farther to travel they may well find themselves too sore to move after that first day. slow and steady gets it done, especially if one isn't used to walking a lot.

[Matt In Oklahoma]

BOB 3-4 GMHB 2-3with small amounts of foraging. I need some more MREs and food to add back in, just used some of it recently. I just bought a backpackers pantry ricenbeans but had not put it in there yet. The miles, well that varies. I built the bags good but the motor is lacking :) LOL
I can generally do around 10 cross country in hilly moderate terrain without killing myself and moving smart without jumping to many critters like snakes and such. Great Job on the Post Bro! I am impressed with your setup and thought.

[Christian for Israel]

looks good matt. how many days/miles will it cover?

[Matt In Oklahoma]

I just saw that I had not added my Military Mess Kit or p38 can opener to my bag so this was good. I also added a p67 can opner to my keychain. Like I said ever expanding.

[Matt In Oklahoma]

I took closeups of the bags too. If anyone wants to see them I'll post them too.

[Matt In Oklahoma]

EDC
Newly purchased Kershaw Skyline knife (after losing my SOG flash:(
Glock 26 with 11rds 115+p Remington
Spare 10rd small mag with same ammo
Flashlight - they vary, this one is a chinese model my wife bought with variable with 220 lums 4hr runtime, 110 lums 8hr runtime, 22 lums 15hr runtime, sos setting and strobe 72 hr runtime with grinder edges on front and back and magnet base that runs on 3 AAAs.
550 cord on keys,I also usually have a Little Sparkie recently destroyed on accident when it got shut in a door:(
Gerber Multi Tool
Military Bandana

BURT VEST
Knife Sharpener (smiths) with 550 cord
Pen and Sharpie
Wifes Car key with 550 cord
Klenex - runny nose and fire starter
Locking Switch Military Flashlight unkown brand with 550 cord
Certs for dry mouth when hiking and bad zombie attracting breath LOL
LA Police Gear folding knife with cord/webbing cutter
Bic Lighter
Clif Bar
G17 Mag with ball 115gr and plus 2 extension for 19rds

GMHB
2 G17 19rd mags with carrier and 115gr ball
Field Stretcher, used to carry out deer, people or ground tarp
SOG machete
Film Canister with dryer lint and vasoline
Bota of Boulder water bottle Filter
Aquamire water purification drops
6" black zip ties
Camo facemask
Camo Gloves lightweight
Camo headwrap
M249 SAW ammo carrier bag for collecting things along the way
Reflective/orange emergency blanket
Shooting stick
Army medical Kit
My Advanced Medical kit with suture, celox etc
extra cell phone/radio pouch
Zip Lock with thim military od green line, 550 cord, camo duct tape
Zip lock with Toliet Paper
Magnesium fire starter-local purchase
M16 Steel cleaning rod sections
Safety Pin
Red Spring Clip
Orange trail marker tape
extra camelbak mouthpiece
Magellan LED Flashlight with low/high settings AAA and 2 Browning headlamps with red/white light
Camo rain suit
Steel Carabiner
Old Timer guthook hunting knife with 550 cord
FRS radio-well worn preset for "our" channel
zip lock with extra batteries
Hothands
Medicine
Canned Pinapple
Equate and Ensure shakes and vienna sausages -also give me steel cans to boil with
Cliff and Power bars
PB crackers
extra 1gl ziplocks
90 oz camelbak and in pouch waterproof bottles with matches, cottonballs and vasoline, field and stream pocket knife/tool with 550 cord
Gerber hand saw
Extra glasses (old military ones) in soft case with clip
Binoculars
sitting/sleeping insulated pillow
reversable neck gaiter in case I need to be seen
Military Lensatic Compass (well used in alot of places)
Extra backpack pouch with SOG Multitool, saftey pin, wind detector also good for chaffing and velcro Thermacell
Chemlights

BOB-Military Large framed Ruck an old friend I carried for a long time in many a place. It still has some room left after the GMHB
It will hold my GMHB along with these items:
Zip lock with 550 cord, zip ties, duct tape, military trip wire and peeln stick od green clothing repair patches
Extra boots wrapped in plastic trash bag
Extra set of camo clothing and work gloves in zip lock
zip lock with emergency fishing kit, wire saw, firestarter and watertight container with lint and vasoline
Hygiene kit
Diamond knife sharpener and stone
carabiner
Bottled water, ensure, tuna
Military canteen cup and stand and firestarter tender pack
orange marker tape
Aquamire water purification tablets
emergency poncho bright color yellow
clips that screw onto water bottles and replace the lids
Kershaw folder knife, CRKT neck knife
Machete (which I just realized I have 2, one in GMHB and one in BOB, of so I just replaced it with a fiskars lightweight hatchet)
100 oz Camelbak with 550 cord
Gortex Jacket and Pants
As I was writing this my emergency tent came in so it is added too

Battlerattle-Body Armor
DPMS M4 with dual mags held in Isreali style mag holder 1 with green tips and 1 with Win. Ranger 68gr HPs that shoot sub minute of angle, flashlight, laser, handle with extra batteries, open sights, carry handle with BSA 4x16 illuminate reticle scope
G17 9mm with Blackhawk holster and spare mags in Fobus open top holders
Short but legal Mossberg 500 zombie getter with sidesaddle w/S&B low recoil and extra buck and slugs and loaded with 00 S&B buckshot
Kevlar helmets one with ballistic facesheild one with goggles option using my gas mask inserts inside the goggles
Drop leg holster with spare mag pouch
Drop leg flashbang pouches used as mag pouches with 30 green tip, 30 45 gr hp, 30 55 gr fmj
M9 Probus bayonet with gerber folder in pouch
Extra G17 mag in pouch with 115 gr ball
M16 mag pouch with 30 green tip, 30 55 gr sp, 30 62gr hp
flex cuffs
mouth guard
gas mask
100oz Camelback bladder in back plate carrier
20 rd shotgun ammo holder with 10rd slugs and 10 rd 00buck S&B low recoil

[Christian for Israel]

thanks RR. i use spray waterproofing on the bags but we don't get much rain here in the high desert. still i have a couple of waterproof sacks i'm trying to figure out hiw to use and still get everything packed in the BOB. on a side note most of the water sensitive and smaller items are packed in ziplock bags already. i took them out to take the pics.

[ridgerunner]

Now that's what I'm talking about! Very nicely done. Well laid out and extremely detailed. I have a million and one questions, but I will start with only one. Are your bag and pouches waterproof, and how do you keep everything dry?

I have used an old backpacking tip which involves lining the GHB with a contractors grade trash bag, and then stuffing it full of gear and tying the bag off at the top. What works for you?

[Christian for Israel]

the rossi was an interesting project. i wanted a rifle suitable for everything from rabbits to elk, at ranges up to 300 yards, that could fit in the pack and not weigh a ton. a single shot was obvious as it comes apart quickly and easily. cutting the barrel was still required so i went all the way to legal minimum. of course, the brake adds 2". but i've heard of the ATF twisting them off and measuring the barrel and i wanted it to still be legal. with the reduced weight (around 4 lbs) the brake was important to reduce recoil. the gun is actually fun to shoot and accurate enough for my uses (average 7" groups at 300 yards).