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    First steps copyright 2005 Robert Henry

    I'm often asked how does someone go about starting to form a survival group.

    First off, start with friends and family. Figure this way, close friends of yours WILL know about your preps and they WILL show up at your door when TSHTF. Would you rather they show up with their hands out and heads up their asses not knowing what to do or would you rather they show up with their own gear and food, knowing what to do? I thought so, let's move on.

    So how do you start to warm them up to survivalism?

    I usually tell people to give their friends a copy of James Rawles book "Patriots Surviving the coming collapse." The book is a great intro for people just getting started in survivalism. It's both a novel and a how to at the same time.

    I've been asked "I have a co-worker that I think would be great for my group. How do I approach him without exposing myself too much."

    Well, keep in mind you ARE going to expose yourself a little whenever you discuss this topic with anyone. Their comes a point where the realization hits that you are NOT going to be able to go it alone if something happens. The point where you understand that is where you realize it would be worse to go it alone in a disaster than it would be to expose yourself. Meeting with other survivalists and forming a group is a give and take type thing. You will have to expose yourself to get this done. You'll note that no where did I advocate giving your real name, SSN, home address or anything of the like to someone you just met, so please don't email me saying I said you had to give up your privacy to meet others, never said that. Caution is the watchword.

    Now, enough of the lawyer like talk.. back to the co-worker question. Similar answer. Give them a copy of "Patriots surviving the coming collapse" but when you give it to them say something like "I just read this, it's a great read, you might want to check it out."

    When you get it back, ask what they thought about it. Responses like "that book really got me thinking" are a great segway (sp?) into further discussion of basic preps.

    A response like "yeah it was a good book" can be followed up with a response like "I thought so to, but it really got me thinking that something like that could happen anytime now." Essentially all you are looking for initially is a point of conversation you can expand on.

    From that point you can develop things by sharing other books, websites. The important thing to do is watch to see if the person ACTS on the information. Does he read everything and not start any preps? I don't care if someone makes $5.00 an hour, if they are SERIOUS enough about preparing, they will do SOMETHING. Trust me, been there several points in my life.

    The ACTION is the key part you want to see done. Without seeing them make forward progress, it's usually a good idea to move along. The folks you want to survive with need to do DOERS not dreamers.

    All for now, see you again soon! RH
    www.homesteadingandsurvival.com

    www.survivalreportpodcast.com

    "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed..."

  • #2
    Thanks! I have been broaching this subject with an in-law....he seems receptive, has a hobby farm with some horses, stocked pond, his wife is an RN, mechanically inclined, has horse drawn buggies etc.... I am hoping that he and I can start really getting some preps done. He wants his wife to learn how to shoot so that is a plus.

    I have been cleaning out pop bottles and storing water in them. Bought some emergency blankets off ebay, less than a $1 a piece and free shipping.
    "It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar

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    • #3
      Thanks, I have been talking to a friend in our SAR group, about being ready for winter travel on the mountain passes, and he brought up the fact that he needed to repalce some water he had stored. I think it may be that we are each are preppers and each feeling out the other. I loan him my copy of Patriots.
      Survival question. What do I need most, right now?

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      • #4
        I have a bit of a reverse problem on this issue.

        The Dragon Lady works in a dept store and got to talking with a customer. She mentioned my 'collection' of arms and that I go shooting every weekend. So, this guy offers that he has some interesting toys (crossbows) and would like to go out with me and get to try them out. She made a major OPSEC violation here, but gave me the guy's email address for me to see if he wants to go out and try his toys out. Not knowing anything about him, I'm a little leery of this, but it could turn into a good contact. Opinions?
        What a long, strange trip it's been.....

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        • #5
          LizardKing thats is a hard one. The best thing I can say is go slow. It is funny that there are so many shooters of various types and yet we seem to be the loneliest bunch of folks ever. While hunting I met an older guy out once who had only archery but was always real interested in my guns. As we got together a little I discovered he was a former felon who could not own firearms. I ended it as he was using me as a conduit to firearms. This is not to say every former felon is bad and unworthy but just be careful of positions you are in. On the OPSEC breach it is even harder fo folks not to know you are a shooter and talk about you I have found. Several things have come up at work with me and as I look at it, they are discussing it not as I am the crazy but that what I do is cool and fun and exciting and they like it even if they are to scared to try it themselves.
          Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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          • #6
            I'd rather people know I have guns than know I have food stored....
            www.homesteadingandsurvival.com

            www.survivalreportpodcast.com

            "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed..."

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