coffee

[rockriver]

I didn't drink coffee till I was half grown.
I started out just drinking socially.
sure I could quit at any time.
I didn't need it. I still don't.
now I sit here typing and about to go get my second cup. (mug may be a better word than "cup")
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I think I can do without it, but... ahh...
so, now that I've confessed that I may have an addiction.
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how do you grow coffee?
anybody got any seeds you'd like to sell?
how do you store your plastic jugs of folgers/Maxwell/other brand?
will it store longer if I put it in sealed metal containers, buried horizontally in pvc pipes buried 24" underground?
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[rockriver]

hmm..
I used to save money and make the bucket last longer by not using as much in the percolator as the container instructed...
but the more I drank it...
I began to learn that following the instructions on the bucket made it taste even better!!
and now... I "round" each tablespoon! and the aroma of this second mug... oh yeah!
apologies if I sounded stressed in the first post. this second mug will sure start the day off better!

I wonder If sam's or Costco will give me a better deal if I order it by the pallet...
anyone want in on a group buy?

[Lowdown3]

Time for an intervention RR.... LOL

Does anyone have coffee just in the old school all metal cans any more? I stuck back about a dozen #10s of Folgers for my Dad (I didn't drink coffee at the time) in the mid 90's. It stored well and we last we rotated some of it was about 5 years ago. I think their is a can or two still left in deep storage.

You could pack coffee in mylar bags. I wouldn't leave it in the foil top containers long term.

[protus]

I've been getting the f4eeze dried espresso stuff. It's 1 tsp for a strong cup (6-8 oz).
Wife made me a 2 Spooner one day.....everyone hated me lol .
We've bought it in bricks as well.
I've got beans in mylar that are 8 years old now...8 should go bust them open..

[cpt_sfc]

The commissary guy said coffee was good forever in old tin cans as long as it had vacuum when you opened it. Hard to find the old metal cans anymore.
I have crackers from 1951 that I open once in awhile, still good , but more like hard tack from CD shelters. Glass jars of freeze dried coffee last as I am still using some from the 80's.

[RobertJ]

Supprised to see maxwell house freeze dried coffee (Instant) went back to glass, from plastic container.
How is everyone storing their coffee? Green beans? Whole roasted beans? Ground? all of the above. I never roasted coffee beans and hear there is an art to it and never considered it, tried. any info welcomed

Hello, my name is Robert... I'm not really an addict, Really for real I'm not.

[cpt_sfc]

When did Maxwell house go back to glass, I have not looked lately as I have been drinking up coffee from 1982.

[RobertJ]

When did Maxwell house go back to glass, I have not looked lately as I have been drinking up coffee from 1982.

I don't know why I typed Maxwell house... should have been Tasters choice,,, sorry for the confusion.

[cpt_sfc]

I was going crazy squeezing jars of mawell house and the women thought I was crazy. Even asked me what in the world I was doing, after I told em, they thought glass was a better idea for some things. This was in a rural area , city folks might have called security on me.

[RobertJ]

I was going crazy squeezing jars of mawell house and the women thought I was crazy. Even asked me what in the world I was doing, after I told em, they thought glass was a better idea for some things. This was in a rural area , city folks might have called security on me.

"Please Mr. Whipple don't squeeze the Charm... err, Maxwell House!!!":o

[Mannlicher]

if things go belly up, coffee will be the last thing I'm concerned about. :)

[230gr]

Storing Coffee Long Term

I have been looking into the best way to storage coffee long term and this is what I have found.
Ideally, coffee should be ground, brewed, and consumed quickly to obtain the best flavor. Coffee beans are at their peak within 24 to 72 hours after roasting and begin to quickly stale after that with most of the original flavor will have deteriorated within a week. Vacuum sealing and over wrapped with aluminum foil and placing them in the freezer (the refrigerator is NOT cold enough) will extend it to 4 or 6 weeks). Which mean that unless you roast & grind your own (or go to Starbucks?), we are not used to grommet tasting coffee so I will settle for drinkable.

How can we store drinkable coffee really long term as in years?
1. From all accounts, green, whole beans store the best. Green beans (whole beans) stay reasonably "fresh" for up to a year in a metal, glass or foil lined bag container if sealed from moisture and oxygen and for several years if frozen.
2. Vacuumed packed steel cans of roasted, ground coffee beans in 59oF storage may keep a year or two (though I suspect a little longer), with tolerable (but maybe not great) drinking quality. Roasting the bean brings the flavorful, but easily rancidzed oils, to the surface and grinding exposing more of the bean to air. The heavier oils of the beans that travel to the exterior of the bean also often congeal during frozen storage and do not remix well when brewed.
3. The best keepers are the Instant type and they come in two forms; spun dried powder and freeze dried. If instant is stored at 59oF, protected from light, in a metal, glass or foil lined bag container, sealed from moisture and oxygen it will keep at least 10 years.
4. IMO, the stored freeze dried was better tasting than the spun dried powder so that is what I stock Also from my own personal experience, Folgers Freeze Dried Coffee, stored in my basement storeroom for over 23 years in its glass jar. It was not only good; it was excellent in flavor.

How much should I store?
Here is what I found for freeze dried, spun dry might be different. I converted grams to grains so you can use your powder scale to calibrate your coffee dipper for rationing purposes. Since I don’t know anyone who really drinks only a 6 oz cup of coffee for an eye opener so plan accordingly.

Freeze Dried Coffee - Product Yield
Throw Weight Yield (6oz Cups)
Grams of Coffee per 6oz Cup Per Package Per Case
Regular Coffee
1.2 grams/18.5 grains 189 cups 2,268 cups
1.3 grams/20 grains 175 cups 2,100 cups
1.4 grams/21.6 grains 162 cups 1,944 cups
Stronger Coffee
1.5 grams/23 grains 151 cups 1,812 cups
1.6 grams/ 24.6 grains 142 cups 1,704 cups


grams = 142 cups / Bag
1.7 grams = 134 cups / Bag
2.0 grams = 114 cups / Bag

[cpt_sfc]

I have found a source for mylar/foil pouchs of coffee. The dollar store. Have to watch for the right flavor but it tastes fine and is a dollar for enough to make 3 pots of coffee. Seems like a really good package. It is not Folgers but it is coffee. Grounds are about a drip grind.