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    Oh but come on, I've read all the "research" online from new preppers that say MRE's won't last 2.5 seconds in high heat. I've seen the arguments of all the "chart commandos" and analytical types, surely MRE's won't last long under HIGH HEAT and HIGH HUMIDITY conditions!!!

    Bravo Sierra. Not that we haven't disproved all that BS a time or two before....

    However just for the "chart commandos", the goofy new preppers with 1 year of experience that are writing some of these crappy books on the market now, etc. Here's some more PROOF-

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    21 year old MRE tray packs of "Pork ribs in BBQ sauce."

    I opened this one on the ground with the idea that after 21 years in A GARAGE IN FLORIDA and a non climate controlled METAL BUILDING IN SOUTH GEORGIA that they would be crap. I mean yeah I've seen pouches and other trays go 17 years, but surely that was a fluke right? Heck to the no....

    Taste was fine, no off smells.

    HOW-

    Purchased in 92 and 93 these cases (yes their was more, and some will be kept for testing further out as my custom) MIGHT have seen inside a home for a year or so early on (can't remember). But around that time a "live in" moved in with me and space became critical in the house I was living in. Most of my food storage then went into a garage. This was in N. Florida. So here these saw temperature swings from around freezing in the cooler months to well over 110 in a garage in the summer. Per all the cute little "charts", these would have been inedible after a month or two of summer time in 1993- again BRAVO SIERRA.

    A few years after that I bought my land and within a short period of time pre-positioned a couple pallets of supplies at a relatives barn that's within a few miles of my land. Also not a climate controlled environment. Could be below freezing in winter and easily 110 in summer.

    Not long after that, 1998'ish they would have went into an outdoor metal building, non climate controlled, where they remained till the other day. Freezing in winter, upwards of 110 in summer.

    WHY

    Why weren't these rotated sooner? Technically, MOST already were. Here again we face the differences between the "casual prepper" that may keep a few weeks or even a few months of food for just himself with no thought of helping others, maybe even family... and the difference between someone who is preparing for long term problems and realized that 10-15 extended family members were not going to prepare on their own and therefore did some preparations for them and their children. Why? Cause if not, "my" 1 year supply would have became a one MONTH supply with a dozen family members arriving. Therefore the "buy it cheap and stack it deep" mantra was put in effect.

    Rotation- yes a LOT of these products were rotated over the years. The few cases left are just a small amount of what was originally put up. Some things are easier to rotate than others and again, when you are discussing the difference between a 2 or 3 MONTH supply for one single person or a multiple year supply for more than a DOZEN people, well you can begin to see the problems with rotation. I don't have a dozen people in "my" family- and 3 people rotating food quantities designed to feed 12-15 is a big task. Further, I've changed in what I will eat and won't eat a bit over the years. For example, I try not to dig on swine. No I'm not a muzzy nor do I wear a yamika.... But I do realize the health benefits of avoiding the piggy. "The little piggy has got the WORM Bob!!" Finally, I keep a fair amount of "old" storage food for "show and tell" purposes like this. We can all talk about "research" all we want, and quote some new preppers crappy book about preparedness, but REAL LIFE RESULTS trump some idjits "research" any old day of the week! So yep, I'll keep a few of these to check at the 25 year mark and 30 year mark.

    So just be sure you understand that their IS "rotation" happening.


    What I've always disliked about the analytical types with their BS FAQ's about food storage was that their UNREALISTIC life spans of food gave a lot of people no hope.

    Joe Joe New Survivalist without a lot of money to prep looks at some inexperienced chart commando's FAQ or crappy book on preparedness- maybe one that states something ridiculous like "white rice will only store six months" (Funny, I've seen it go over 20 years...) and Joe Joe New Survivalist thinks "oh man I can't be spending that much money regularly, I'll just buy a few cans of tuna and hope for the best." Next thing, Joe Joe's family is starving cause Joe Joe believed the BS of some pogue that has no real long term experience in food storage.

    That's not right in my book.

    So, KNOW that even in WORST CASE STORAGE ENVIRONMENTS that certain products that are PACKED FOR LONG TERM STORAGE (again, I'm not talking about pouches of star kiss tuna, I'm talking about REAL long term storage food) WILL be good LONG LONG after the little "charts" and analytical types tell you they are crap.

    So store food the best way you can, in the best environment you can, but don't stop putting food up for your family just because it can't all be kept at a perfect 71.0 degrees...

    Lowdown3
    Last edited by Lowdown3; 05-07-2014, 09:21 AM.
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    ld3,
    awesome post...
    and point well made...

    btw, I "borrowed" your link and added a post over in "soup expired in 2010" without asking permission... i'll be glad to delete,
    but your thread above sure reinforces the reasons I started that thread, and I wanted this info over there too!

    thanks.

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    • #3
      Uh I see no mention of taste...LOL, just kidding. Good post, especially with the dates and temp data.

      Have you tried the eggs yet???

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      • #4
        Eggs with cheese and bacon pieces

        Circa 2002

        Also high heat and high humidity.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lowdown3 View Post
          Eggs with cheese and bacon pieces

          Circa 2002

          Also high heat and high humidity.

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          Now 14 year old eggs should be a real test... LOL!
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