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    As my nym might suggest, I am only getting started. My family consumes a lot of rice and lentils as a matter of course (wife from South America). It occurred to me that at the very least, we should be storing those two items in bulk, as a starter, and rotation would be easy because we use them regularly anyway.

    so I started to try to calculate volumes and the translation of same into "days" of service. Let me share my calculations for rice, and ask more experienced folk if this sounds about right.

    Assume my family/group needs a total of 10,000 Calories a day (call this five adults). Naturally, I will want to store a variety of foods and eat a mixed diet everyday, but I'm thinking it might be a useful unit in measuring storage quantities of any food in "stand-alone service days" as if we were eating only that item.

    So, after referencing a variety of nutrition websites and cooking websites, I seem to run into the following calculations, which strike me as wrong, but that's why I'm asking.

    Calories per cup white rice, cooked = 242
    Daily cups, cooked, for 10,000 calories = 41 cups
    Dry rice for 1 cup, cooked = 74g
    Dry rice for 41 cups, cooked = 3.03 KG (6.7 lbs!?)
    Volume of 3.03 KG, dry = 15 dry cups
    In other words, 3.75 dry quarts

    SOOOOO, a six-gallon plastic sealed bucket of rice would contain 24 quarts, or only 6.4 service days of food. To store enough for a year (yes, i know I need other foods, but this is my unit of measure), I would need 57 6-gallon buckets of rice.

    Does this sound right to more experienced folks?

    It is material because I figure my first step on a long journey should be to get 3 months' supply in event of pandemic-type situations where we don't want to leave the house or something.
    Last edited by All Talk; 09-01-2010, 04:43 PM.

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    Well as you said, this would NOT be all that your eating (rice and lentils).

    Math wise, it might work out, but I think you'll find in actual use that you will use well less than 57 buckets a year for four people.

    On a "slow" week we eat rice and beans 4X a week with maybe a meal out and the other two dinners usually a home made pizza or a pasta based dish. The nights that it's rice and beans we usually always have enough left over that my wife and son have it for lunch the next day.

    Our rice based meals are a BIIIG portion of rice, half that size portion of beans, small portion of veg and (not all the time) some home raised rabbit or chicken. We don't eat rice as a side.

    That being said, rice is CHEAP, even now, it's still cheap. I don't think it's unrealistic for a family of four to have 2,000 lbs. of it stocked. Pack it correctly and it will store for decades.

    You can always find out by experience. Pour the rice you normally use into a 5 gallon bucket and pull solely from that for a month and get a better idea what you all would use.

    I overestimated our food storage needs, but I'm definitely not disappointed with the results. :)

    Good luck.
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    • #3
      thanks for the post...
      i'm just beginning our food storage program.
      a thought that always comes back is
      "who all will show up?"
      i hope i'll be able to get my mother here. 260 miles
      i hope my children can get here, (or i'll be able to go get them) 500 miles and 1200 miles!
      my brother 1500 miles
      these are all strong "hopes."
      there are others that would be welcome if they show up at the door.
      --
      so,
      i like your idea of specific target for 3 months.
      (in my case - plan 3 months for 6 people)
      and build from there.

      anticipating that we will need food for 6 people for "x" number of years!

      that brings up another question! i'm figuring eventual target of 2 years, then
      anticipating the joseph scenario of 7..

      thanks again. your post will help motivate me!

      rr

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      • #4
        by Mormon figures, it will cost you about 400 per person to feed them for one yr, probably about 500 when you figure in some seasonings, powdered milk, vegs, oils, ect. It would last a lot longer if put in a survival mode and rationed.
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        Last edited by crossbow; 09-02-2010, 06:13 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rockriver View Post
          thanks for the post...
          i'm just beginning our food storage program.
          a thought that always comes back is
          "who all will show up?"
          i hope i'll be able to get my mother here. 260 miles
          i hope my children can get here, (or i'll be able to go get them) 500 miles and 1200 miles!
          my brother 1500 miles
          these are all strong "hopes."
          there are others that would be welcome if they show up at the door.
          --
          so,
          i like your idea of specific target for 3 months.
          (in my case - plan 3 months for 6 people)
          and build from there.

          anticipating that we will need food for 6 people for "x" number of years!

          that brings up another question! i'm figuring eventual target of 2 years, then
          anticipating the joseph scenario of 7..

          thanks again. your post will help motivate me!

          rr
          I hope that you've got all those people on board and they're prepping right along with you because usually when you bring in even a brother, the brother has a wife who has a mother, father ect. whom they won't want to leave to the wolves. I would guess that right now you need about 4 thousand dollars worth of preps. you have to figure all the what ifs and buts and draw a line in the sand, either some survive or no one survives.

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          • #6
            thanks, this link is helpful

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            • #7
              The one thing that I have noticed about these calculators is that they include ground grain (flour in the calculations). From what I have learned from lowdown3 (PAW production videos and I think JWR also talked about it in one of his books) is to not store ground grain. So I just take that weight in ground grain and add it to the whole grain figure. Might seem obvious to some and not others that is why I wanted to post about it.

              Thanks for the link crossbow!
              "It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lowdown3 View Post
                I overestimated our food storage needs, but I'm definitely not disappointed with the results. :)
                Just like there is no such thing as having too much ammo there is no such thing as overestimating your food storage needs.:)
                My blog: http://greenerground.blogspot.com/

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