Eggs and Salmonella

[TheSurvivalDoctor]

TIps on how to celebrate an Easter egg hunt without getting Salmonella.

http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com/2012/04/05/salmonella-from-eggs-prevention-treatment/

Actually the tips are for anyone who handles raw food, deals with poultry, or eats eggs.

Salmonella prevention, recognition, and treatment.

Any questions, critique, bad experiences?

[Karen]

Thanks for the tips. I'm just starting to raise chickens this year as part of my plan for renewable food sources.

[EX121]

I have to say I'm a bit confused, even though you recommend boiling the eggs for 15 (to kill the salmonella I presume), you then say to not eat those eggs if they have been hidden. How long can you keep a boiled egg a room temprature and be safe?

[TheSurvivalDoctor]

Ex121,

The recommendations I have read always say don't eat after two hours at room air. I think it has to do with possibility of contamination and growth of other types of bacteria. Let me know if that's still not clear.

[TheSurvivalDoctor]

Karen, you're welcome.

[EX121]

Not to be argumentive but is that 2 hrs peeled or unpeeled? I agree with the 2 hours unpeeled at room temp. We go to a lot of pot-luck dinners & I always shy away from deviled eggs, etc. unless I know they are cold.

[protus]

Not to be argumentive but is that 2 hrs peeled or unpeeled? I agree with the 2 hours unpeeled at room temp. We go to a lot of pot-luck dinners & I always shy away from deviled eggs, etc. unless I know they are cold.

eat them worse casse you lose some Lb's.....i just put extra hot sauce on them......:P

[Grantmeliberty]

Dr Mercola www.mercola.com has covered the issue of salmonella in eggs, and in fact suggests that eating raw eggs is beneficial. IIRC Rocky ate quite a few without harm LOL For myself, I raise my own chickens, and I also eat some of the eggs raw in a shake in the morning.
On the issue of salmonella, I had salmonella poisoning from a chicken fajita I got at a mexican restaurant in Idaho in the summer of 1988. Everyone else had burritos, and I was the only one sick, and that for about 3 or 4 days. At the same time, the Air Force Academy had an outbreak from chicken, so I wasn't alone.
One of the issues that is confusing today is sanitation and perfect cleanliness. I had a cousin whose house was lysol fresh, and her children were constantly sick. We are meant to co-exist with friendly bacteria, and they help our immune system to function. All the anti-biotics have compromised our friendly flora and caused a lot of problems.
A good read on the issue is The Maker's Diet by Jordan Rubin There is also information out now which shows that children delivered by C section, not picking up the bacteria the mother carries, do not develop the gut bacteria they need.

[BioG8r]

Keeping things clean is a good rule but I think it gets pushed way too far in some instances. We need to be exposed to certain toxins/germs to a minor degree. Our immune systems are composed of all of our encounters/experiences.

Salmonella isn't one of those but we can't expect to live in a sterile world. Keeping the kitchen and eating area clean is a must. Making sure you avoid the Botulism and Salmonella in these areas is easy when you keep up with the basics.

We raise our own chickens and eggs, we have NEVER had an issue. I have seen large egg houses and experienced the sanitation issues first hand. I DO NOT TRUST others with my eggs or chicken!!

We are lucky we have the opportunity to be masters of our food stream. We raise beef, chicken, fish and are working on rabbits. Many could do the same if they only would. We haven't always been so lucky but we did raise chickens in an urban area. backyard chicken and eggs are Great! share with the neighbors every now and then and keep the area clean and quiet, they'll support you.

[TheSurvivalDoctor]

Not to be argumentive but is that 2 hrs peeled or unpeeled? I agree with the 2 hours unpeeled at room temp. We go to a lot of pot-luck dinners & I always shy away from deviled eggs, etc. unless I know they are cold.

It's peeled or unpeeled. Salmonella has been shown, in some studies, to survive boiling. Although it's unclear what percentage survives and how much boiling is done, some have survived a ten minute egg-boiling. The salmonella just becomes inactivated and doesn't cause problems. But it's possible, with time, the inactivated salmonella can be activated again and start reproducing. I don't know how exactly two hours was picked but I suspect it takes all that into consideration.

[TheSurvivalDoctor]

Grantmeliberty and BioG8r,

I agree with all, except eating raw eggs. Just don't think it's worth the risk.