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  • To bug or not to bug?

    That is the question... LOL


    Many people today are quick to make the decision to bug in. Too many times people fail to look objectively at their own situation, conditions in which they live, where they live, possible local conditions and other factors relating to this.

    In reality, probably 60% or more of the people who openly state they plan to "bug in" should likely leave their home area during a wide scale disaster.

    A few years back at a campout hosted by one of the internet forums in Florida. I taught a class on NBC defense focusing primarily on the nuclear threat. Earlier in the day the host produced a map of the state and asked that everyone that wanted to, to put a little pin flag (approximately) what city they were from. By far and large the majority of folks in attendance where from large cities. Most of the these large cities were also primary or secondary nuclear targets. The interesting part was that I sensed that few people REALLY understood the importance of getting away from those areas in a bad situation. Not just from the nuclear aspect, but also from the general breakdown aspect.

    The gubmint has made terms like "sheltering in place" popular and people have run with it. Only a realistic and unbiased look at the the threats and potential threats in YOUR area will allow you to make a real judgment call.

    Any failure to look at this realistically will likely cause the death of your family.

    "Whoa brother, that's hard!
    " Your darn right it is. It's time to wake up folks and really consider the situations that may befall us.

    Let's first look at two of the big reasons that cause people to ONLY consider bugging in-

    *Comfort. This idea more than anything else has created a genre of sissified efeminant quasi survivalists. They say life just wouldn't be "worth living" without modern conveniences. What a load of crap! As if they wouldn't want their or their children's life to continue if no Xbox, "fine wine" or Belgian chocolates were available.

    Gotta a news flash for folks that think this way- your slavish mentality to "the good life" is going to likely cause your family's demise when the time comes.

    The reality is that with good preparations you can still have most of these things that folks like this consider "essential" at a safe location. You do NOT have to compromise your safety by staying in an area two miles outside of a major city just to have these things. With alternate energy such as solar, wind, hydro or even a generator based system, you can still have 'modern conveniences' in a safe location well away from the city.

    *Family issues. Sometimes these dovetail into the "comfort" issue above. More often than not it's the spouse that "doesn't get it" and wants no part of preparing. We've discussed this and potential remedies many many times before here. Suffice to say that you HAVE to get these family issues squared away BEFORE you really move forward.


    Is your area really safe? What are you basing that on?

    It's time to take a hard look and do some research looking at numerous things including but not limited to: population density in your area, current crime rates, unemployment rates, demographics of your area, situation and conditions relating to the power grid, access to your city, amount of presence of national guard and police in your city, proximity to military bases of ANY size, proximity to nuclear targets, proximity to high value and "symbolic" targets, etc.

    Once armed with this general information, then and only then can you start to answer the question- to bug or not to bug.

    RH
    www.homesteadingandsurvival.com

    www.survivalreportpodcast.com

    "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed..."

  • #2
    After many years of living in congested south Florida my wife and I were able to realize our dream of moving to the country. We now have a small farm on a dead end dirt road six miles outside a one stoplight town of 2,000. We are off the beaten path. The downside is within 40-50 airmiles in either direction are several Navy bases, including the only east coast port for Trident ballistic missle subs, which I'm sure is on Russia's target list.
    But, perhaps the only thing to make us leave would be a major hurricane, in which case we'd load the animals into the horse trailer and boogie, coming back when the dust settles.
    "There is nothing so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." Winston Churchill
    Member: Veterans of Foreign Wars, Vietnam Veterans of America, American Legion, AMVETS, Society of the Fifth Infantry Division

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    • #3
      RPD- the targets could become a slight advantage to you. Those areas will be avoided for a while after nukes. If your sandwiched between the two, that area might be overlooked all together. I personally wouldn't head toward a nuke target when something happens. If you had a good shelter that would see you through, you might find that your better off long term than others in that area. The rationale being that without good shelter a lot of folks in that area would die off. Thereby cutting down on the number of looters later on.

      Just some out of the box thinking that may help you.
      Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"

      Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

      Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

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      • #4
        I doubt my situation is ideal in any sense, but my wife and I inherited a farm about an hour and half away from the city, so for now that is our Bug-out location. We may move there semi-permanently soon, but I always will be looking for somewhere farther, better I suppose. The routes to the farm are, at least, off any main road.

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        • #5
          This is certainly the hardest question we have faced as a family. We live near a mid sized city that is well known for extensive gang activity and a welfare dependent mind set. Our plan for now is to stay in place as so far, the good lord and not brought to mind any alternatives to that. So, we are putting a plan into place to defend what we have from those who would take it. It's one of those things that keeps me up at night!
          When it comes to home defense, I'll take a Glock over a lock any day.

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          • #6
            My PRIMARY plan is to BUG IN...

            Why? Because in my area of Virginia (piedmont), there is no "real" wilderness to BUG OUT to... It is either private land, federal or state forests (makes you a LEGAL jack-boot target for tresspassing), too mountainous to make a long stay feasible, or will be LOADED with hungry hunters with rifles shooting at anything that moves, trying to feed their families. That is the reality for much of this area of the eastern seaboard... The "woods" that do exist are not remote enough to keep you SAFE long-term. As many know, people with 4x4's and ATV's WILL find you eventually... Then what? Fire, flee, stand ground or negotiate?

            Yeah, bugging IN is the most comfy option, no doubt, but with little other options, is that such a bad thing? At least on MY property, I have the LEGAL right to defend my self and property, with KNOWN distances, cover and likely attack points. And no matter how well you pack, or how lightweight your gear, you CANNOT take all that you would like to have with you BUGGING OUT, unless one have a retreat already established and stocked.

            As for nukes... All of Virginia is a target, especially with more and more formerly DC-area based military and government agencies fanning out into the more rural Virginia environs to make "survival" and "continuance" more liklely (and they are indeed fanning out, for those not in this area, with massive expenditures to do so). But where I am, I at least have some massive granite mountains between the most likely, LARGE targets and me, which is my only hope of surviving a TRUE nuclear detonation event.

            Honestly, if survival was our #1 goal, then the entire eastern side of the country is folly... Really. All of us in the east side would have to move west, or move OUT (to another country south of here). Yet many of us are HERE... So where does that place survival on our priority list? Usually below what keeps us here (born here, settled in here, income, lack of income to move, family here, etc...)

            So I hope and pray that any SHTF event allows me to BUG IN... If not, I am SOL, as any place around here will only offer TEMPORARY refuge... That said, I know that I am where I am supposed to be, as I believe my Elohim (God) has placed me here with open doors that brought me here, so I trust in HIS PLAN and not MY PLANS. If He has placed me here and a SHTF event brings my and my families soon death, then I hope that I am able to accomplish whatever task He has for me before I die... That's about all I can do...

            Rmpl
            -=> Rmplstlskn <=-

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