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    I was recently listening to the audiobook of the Rawles book Surviving the End Of The World As We Know It and something he said just struck me right between the eyes.

    It said that he vowed to never let his family run out of batteries. He relayed that without batteries you will essentially be back in the 19th century. Just take a moment and ponder that thought, no batteries for your red dot (except those that have Trijicon), flashlights, radios, etc. Yep, you have the candle/lantern for the retreat house, but what are you going to shine when you are out on patrol. Are you going to carry a lantern with you while out at the LP/OP or walking the fence line? Your flashlight, red dot, handitalkie, etc can be force multipliers.

    He recommeds that you have some way of charging rechargeable batteries, preferably LSD (low self discharge) batteries. He started with a small set-up of solar panels from Northern Tools. He also recommeds the Accumanager-20 battery charger which is a 12v and AC charger. This way a small PV panel could be set up to go from 12v to 12v without the need for conversion to AC. When you think about it we spend a lot on batteries and throw them away. An Accumanager-20 runs about $60 and LSD rechargeable batteries vary depending on size. A 45 watt solar panel kit from Harbor Freight and Northern Tools can be found for abot $180 on sale. I would venture to guess that in the long run you would spend less going rechargeable vs. disposable. Some of the LSD batteries I've seen can be recharged 3000 times. So even if you used the batteries every night and recharged during the day, your batteries would last over 8 years. That is a lot of nights with light and having a red dot when you absolutley need it.

    I have taken on the same thought he has and vowed to get set-up for recharging and obtaining batteries. The solar set-up has been obtained and now the Accumanager-20. I have some batteries from other things, so I'm starting. After a SHTF crisis I can see that after a couple weeks most sheeple will be without any batteries and will be having to burn candles and make torches.

    Think about your battery situation now. I have several batteries now that I have in storage, but once these are gone, they will be of no use. Rechargeable is the way to go. Don't let your family be in the 19th century when you have the ability to prevent it. Look into you options.
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    Batteries - check
    Battery Tester - check
    Batteries on Weapons - check
    Batteries in GMHB and BOB -check
    Batteries in Camper - Check
    Solar Rechargables - arrrg - no go at this station
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Patriotic Sheepdog View Post
      I was recently listening to the audiobook of the Rawles book Surviving the End Of The World As We Know It and something he said just struck me right between the eyes.

      It said that he vowed to never let his family run out of batteries. He relayed that without batteries you will essentially be back in the 19th century. Just take a moment and ponder that thought, no batteries for your red dot (except those that have Trijicon), flashlights, radios, etc. Yep, you have the candle/lantern for the retreat house, but what are you going to shine when you are out on patrol. Are you going to carry a lantern with you while out at the LP/OP or walking the fence line? Your flashlight, red dot, handitalkie, etc can be force multipliers.

      He recommeds that you have some way of charging rechargeable batteries, preferably LSD (low self discharge) batteries. He started with a small set-up of solar panels from Northern Tools. He also recommeds the Accumanager-20 battery charger which is a 12v and AC charger. This way a small PV panel could be set up to go from 12v to 12v without the need for conversion to AC. When you think about it we spend a lot on batteries and throw them away. An Accumanager-20 runs about $60 and LSD rechargeable batteries vary depending on size. A 45 watt solar panel kit from Harbor Freight and Northern Tools can be found for abot $180 on sale. I would venture to guess that in the long run you would spend less going rechargeable vs. disposable. Some of the LSD batteries I've seen can be recharged 3000 times. So even if you used the batteries every night and recharged during the day, your batteries would last over 8 years. That is a lot of nights with light and having a red dot when you absolutley need it.

      I have taken on the same thought he has and vowed to get set-up for recharging and obtaining batteries. The solar set-up has been obtained and now the Accumanager-20. I have some batteries from other things, so I'm starting. After a SHTF crisis I can see that after a couple weeks most sheeple will be without any batteries and will be having to burn candles and make torches.

      Think about your battery situation now. I have several batteries now that I have in storage, but once these are gone, they will be of no use. Rechargeable is the way to go. Don't let your family be in the 19th century when you have the ability to prevent it. Look into you options.

      I have my battery and energy duties next month. But I have been getting ahead in checking in.

      Here is a solar battery charger. It only works with AA and AAA. I would like to find one for C's and 9 volts.


      Here is one that does D's C' AA and AAA


      I think I might get this one. With a crap load of special batteries.

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      • #4
        I have this charger:
        Maha Energy is the maker of Powerex batteries and charging solutions. Powerex batteries offer the highest performance available today. Powerex chargers use advanced techniques for optimized battery charging and to optimize battery life


        and several Eneloop AA and AAA batteries

        With the Maha charger you can program each individual slot differently where as other cheaper chargers you must charge in pairs or 4 at a time.
        Also it will not overcharge any batteries even if you charge batteries with different states of charge.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by trkarl View Post
          I have this charger:
          Maha Energy is the maker of Powerex batteries and charging solutions. Powerex batteries offer the highest performance available today. Powerex chargers use advanced techniques for optimized battery charging and to optimize battery life


          and several Eneloop AA and AAA batteries

          With the Maha charger you can program each individual slot differently where as other cheaper chargers you must charge in pairs or 4 at a time.
          Also it will not overcharge any batteries even if you charge batteries with different states of charge.
          I have the same charger, you still need an electrical source to charge them.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by hagbard View Post
            I have the same charger, you still need an electrical source to charge them.
            I have a 4kw off grid solar set up which runs my house and 2 gennys and a few inverters and battery banks and lots of spare parts. Does that count?:)
            My blog: http://greenerground.blogspot.com/

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            • #7
              @Matt - saw a lot of Duracell and Energizer alkaline batteries. Hope you got some rechargeable in there somewhere.


              I recently bought 12 AAA's and 12 AA's from BatteryJunction.com

              12 AAA 1000mAh high 12PCS-TENERGY-NIMH-AAA-1000 1-12pk $10.20

              12 Tenergy 2600mAh AA 12PCS-TENERGY-NIHM-AA-2600 1-12pk $17.40

              Subtotal $27.60
              Shipping $7.66

              Note: this site also sells the true blue D cell NiMH rechargeable batteries, they are rated at 10,000 mAh not the crappy 2500 mAh like Energizer sells.

              I will be going back to this company and getting more :)
              "It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar

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              • #8
                Does anyone know if batteries are effected by EMP?

                Also, ELITTLE - are those batteries from bj.com rechargeable?

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                • #9
                  @2682nscovell - yes. they even have LSD rechargeable batteries.
                  "It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar

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                  • #10
                    trk- You almost got me too..... I went, wait a sec, he is off grid also :)
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                    Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

                    Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

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                    • #11
                      @2682nscovell: from what I know about EMP I would say no, they do not effect your batteries. EMP needs ELECTRONICS to damage, not a source of power (battery). Now your charger, now that is a different story, better put a spare one in your faraday cage. :)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Klayton View Post
                        @2682nscovell: from what I know about EMP I would say no, they do not effect your batteries. EMP needs ELECTRONICS to damage, not a source of power (battery). Now your charger, now that is a different story, better put a spare one in your faraday cage. :)
                        @Klayton Then how come we had to remove our truck batteries during the drills back in the day and bury them (actually just simulated but ...)?
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                        • #13
                          hmmm not sure Matt... ignorance of the military? HEHE we use to take salt tablets to prevent dehydration too :)

                          LOL

                          Again, I am not an emp expert, but I do not see how EMP would effect a battery, maybe vehicle batteries (because of plate structure inside??) the emp can overload (cook) the battery? Again, everything I was taught was EMP fries electronics, and in some cases actually melts small gauge wiring (overload = excessive heat). Perhaps we have an electric/electronic engineer that can fill our void of education/training???

                          :)

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                          • #14
                            wait something just set off that lightbulb Matt... :)
                            remember the 9V bombs we did as kids?
                            The refeeding the electricity back to the neg terminal really overheats a battery and eventually leads to structure failure
                            Perhaps batteries (example vehicle batteries) that are connected to electronics would enter this catastrophic cycle when the electronics fry?
                            perhaps the frying of the electronics would start a continuous loop from positive to negative terminal, causing our aforementioned 9V battery bomb?

                            just thinking outside the box...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Klayton View Post
                              wait something just set off that lightbulb Matt... :)remember the 9V bombs we did as kids?The refeeding the electricity back to the neg terminal really overheats a battery and eventually leads to structure failure Perhaps batteries (example vehicle batteries) that are connected to electronics would enter this catastrophic cycle when the electronics fry? perhaps the frying of the electronics would start a continuous loop from positive to negative terminal, causing our aforementioned 9V battery bomb? just thinking outside the box...
                              Good I was beginning to think I owed some NBC NCO a head or gut shot for making this poor ole private pull all them truck batteries!
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