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  • I'm going to plant more Lima beans and maybe pinto beans. Limas can be planted through August, and while they grow like crazy, with only 2 or sometimes 3 beans/pod, I need a boatload of them to fill up my Lima bean jar.

    Enjoy your family and relax!!

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    • Pintos it will have to be...We no not like Lima beans....
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      • Originally posted by Patriotic Sheepdog View Post
        Pintos it will have to be...We no not like Lima beans....
        You can always do more winter squash....I would, but I don't know where I'd put any more!:rolleyes:

        No gardening today - the roofers are here and we are kind of trapped in the house right now as they tear shingles off the roof. A couple pieces of shingle have ended up on my container garden, but so far no serious impact. I watered at 6:30 AM to at least get that done.:rolleyes:
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        • Roofers, ah...the joys of them. If you have a large magnet on a broom handle you may want to walk around they yard after they are done. I bought one from Lowes a while back and picked up close to 50 roofing nails they had left after they supposedly did a magnet walk around...that is pretty much the last thing they do, and they want to get out of there, so it is a hap-HAZARD job....

          We have a house full, and tiny house full of family here until the weekend. Looks like today is beach day unless people decide not to do today...I am just rolling with the crowd. I have to move my mulberry tree from the pot it came in. The leaves are browning and yellowing. The tag on the tree says can be left in pot, but I am afraid the it is getting root bound, but wife wants to keep it in its pot. I left it in there as when we got it 3 months ago it was full of berries, but now the berries are long gone (eaten), and it is looking sick. When I water it, the water pretty much just drains out so I am wondering if it is not getting much water...or maybe too much water??? Either way, I think transplanting it is the way to go at this point....probably will not be today though, so your thoughts are appreciated.
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          • Primary culprit for browning/yellowing leaves in a potted tree is water - too much or too little. How moist is the soil a few inches down? If dry, water (at least 1" 2x/week). If wet, cut back on the water. The intense heat we've been experiencing could be causing your tree too much stress. You should remove any seriously discolored/dead leaves and dispose of them. If you have spotting leaves, it may be a bacterial or fungal infection. Try adding a copper fungicide spray (I used something like CuProxxxxxxx) if that's the case.

            Roofers - long story and speaking of stress.....the inspector wouldn't sign off on the dried-in roof because they put 2 layers of underlay over the old peel-and-stick (peel-and-stick was FBC in the early 2000s). The crew started shingling before the inspector signed off, and now they may need to tear off and start over. The owner of the company seems to think I should pay for extra materials. I'm thinking that knowing the current FBCs isn't my job, and they should eat the cost of materials.....we're at a standstill with a dried-in roof, a dumpster in the driveway blocking the garage, and a yard that needs mowing with the Deere in the garage! I couldn't keep the gardens watered because it would have been in the roofing crew's way. Stressed...

            Enjoy the beach and your family - and you probably need to transplant the tree when you get back.

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            • Going to try and transplant the tree today. The leaves were looking dry and I did a deep watering and by afternoon it perked up. I looked up causes and found, heat, too much water, too little water and decided too little. I think it might be getting root bound in the container....It needs to spread out a bit.

              Oh, you just have to love the too much or too little water diagnosis....I always think too little first as we have had one day in the last 4-6 weeks of rain and intense heat. We felt like we had gone to heaven yesterday as it only got to 91 degrees with a mild breeze, but today it is going to push 100 degrees again...
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              • Glad the tree is perking up. With all this heat, it's hard to keep enough water on the plants. Water is always my starting point when plants look stressed.

                The yard is crackly... I did a 30-minute watering at dinnertime - and will do another in the morning after my husband mows the yard (I may drag the hose out to the bag garden and soak everything), because the roof is done! The inspector issue was resolved and the crew came, worked for about 3 hours, and it was finished. Not long afterward, the dumpster got moved, and now life is back to as normal as it gets around here. Rain is predicted tomorrow afternoon, Saturday, Sunday, and maybe Monday. I hope the weather forecast is correct, because we need the rain.

                I walked through the bag garden and it was so hot out there I couldn't stand it! Yesterday was pleasant in the lower 90s, but today it was just plain HOT! I walked by the container garden and spotted 2 red tomatoes deep in the midst of two plants. There are a ton ready to pick in the bag garden, so I may be canning this weekend. I am picking about 5 or 6 per day, and we are eating 1, so I need to get on the ball. If it does rain, that will be perfect for staying in and canning. I keep about 5 in the fridge in case we want tacos or BLTs.

                The shade cloth arrived and I hope we can get it up as soon as it gets back to blazing hot sun all day. My bag garden needs a break!

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                • I picked 20 tomatoes this morning, and there are at least that many more on the verge.
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                  • Ridiculously hot day today! 103° and too hot to do much in the garden. I chopped off a few dead leaves here and there and turned over the composter, then picked tomatoes. I watered 30 minutes 2x, morning and evening. I may still have to pull out the garden hose tomorrow to really soak the bag garden. We really need to get that shade cloth up!
                    It was an errand kind of day and then into the AC, stuffed some poblanos, hit the pool, and it was a wrap.

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                    • Got the shade cloth up - sort of. Not a permanent setup, but enough to provide a noticeable amount of shade. I need some taller poles to attach it to, but for now it's up and probably blocking a lot of the nice rain we finally got...

                      The photo was taken while we were just starting to add the shade cloth, but the difference in sun exposure can be seen.
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                      I picked more tomatoes, sugar snaps, cukes, and lima beans, with the intention of processing them, until my husband decided it was time to put up the shade cloth. I wasn't about to refuse that offer! My plants need some relief from the burning hot sun.

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                      • I was able to get the Mulberry tree transplanted from container to ground. Did a little around the fruit trees and garden with weeding and such. I was out from 830a to 1130a and went thru almost a full gallon of water. Took 3-4 ten minute rest breaks, but with a heat index of 106 when I finished, well lets say I was getting close to heat exhaustion...My wife came and said.."I think you are done, huh?" I was done and had been cleaning up for the last 5 minutes...I was monitoring myself and could tell I needed to get in as I was doing the last chore...watering the garden. I knew if I didn't get in I would have taken that hose to me and just let the cool water run on me...I was totally soaked with sweat (good sign) at that point so I was really close to doing that....I teach my tribe that you need to pay close attention when in heat like that as it can jump on you quickly...so I was heading the warnings that I saw. Another 15-30 minutes and it would have been too late. Glad I am in medicine and know the signs....
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                        Guns and gear are cool, but bandages stop the bleeding!

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                        • I'm so glad you got the mulberry tree transplanted! Working in this heat is no joke. Let me know how the tree does in it's new home! It's slightly cooler today (94), but be careful out in the sun. I find myself wishing for fall.

                          It was ridiculously hot yesterday and I was outside working on the shade cloth for what seemed an eternity, plus picking beans and tomatoes. The heat index here was around 108 and the temp was 103 - I was a dripping mess by the time I came in and a likely shaky. The shade cloth is doing its job even though it only drops the temp 10-20° underneath; still, I'll take what I can get! We need to set up a frame for it tomorrow or Monday. Baby watermelons are so big they're threatening to pull down the trellis - I need to get that section propped up.

                          This morning we went to the watermelon festival for about an hour. My husband got his handicap parking permit and it was nice not to have to walk half a mile to get in. It was only in the 80s but walking around for an hour was enough sun for me. I was going to can tomatoes when we got home, but we stopped over to visit a terminally ill friend and I decided to can first thing in the morning. I went out and killed a battalion of army worms feasting on my potato plants (they appeared overnight) and I guess we'll be having baby potatoes, since they had stripped about 85% of the leaves bare.

                          I trimmed off some dead leaves in the bag garden, picked more snap beans, and headed for the house. Enough of that for today. I'll just head to the kitchen andake a chicken pie instead.

                          It poured last evening! Rain penetrates shade cloth very nicely so no watering required today and I hope the shade cloth slows the evaporation of moisture from the plants.

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                          • Husband got some PVC pipe and fittings to build a structure for the shade cloth over the bag garden.

                            Canned tomatoes, got some sugar snaps in the freezer, and shelled lima beans, then I made a cucumber & tomato salad and some toffee peanuts. Got the weeding done in the tropical bed (finally), insect sprayed both vegetable gardens (I saw a couple of moths in the bag garden and not going through that again), put down some weed killer out front, and dragged myself back into the house to get my bathing suit on and headed for the pool. I figured since I'd been at it for almost 6 hours, it was time for a break!

                            Tomorrow morning is a trip to the dentist to get my implant reattached (lost it yesterday), then home to help my husband with the trellis frame. It's working as is but definitely needs the frame. I'll take a picture when it's done.

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                            • Wow! i've been ignoring this thread... to my own loss.

                              lots of info here and i've got to dig deeper than the quick glance this morning..
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                              we've been keeping a garden spot mulched and "ready" for several years, but no gardening... with exception of a few pots and a couple of raised beds.
                              --
                              this year we did start again in a new location. primarily with seeds from dollar general that were 2021 "end of season sale seeds" gernination has been very poor... seeds stored in a refrigerator over the 21/22 winter... bride stopped at local feed and seed store and picked up some bean varieties... those seeds produced awesomely.

                              two prolbems. 1 heat and no rain. 2... critters... bugs bunny and bambi's family... they can turn a row of 8 inch tall peas that look great into a row of 4 inch stalks that look like someone went through with a weed eater.in one night.
                              this process has been a great lesson. mighty glad we aren't dependent on the crop this year..

                              our mulched garden space has huge piles of chips and other items over it. that needs to be corrected. when we quit gardening. i took down the fencing. big mistake... some rabbit fencing and
                              deer fencing need to go on the shopping list. quickly... prices going up!

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                              • Originally posted by rockriver View Post
                                Wow! i've been ignoring this thread... to my own loss.

                                lots of info here and i've got to dig deeper than the quick glance this morning..
                                --
                                we've been keeping a garden spot mulched and "ready" for several years, but no gardening... with exception of a few pots and a couple of raised beds.
                                --
                                this year we did start again in a new location. primarily with seeds from dollar general that were 2021 "end of season sale seeds" gernination has been very poor... seeds stored in a refrigerator over the 21/22 winter... bride stopped at local feed and seed store and picked up some bean varieties... those seeds produced awesomely.

                                two prolbems. 1 heat and no rain. 2... critters... bugs bunny and bambi's family... they can turn a row of 8 inch tall peas that look great into a row of 4 inch stalks that look like someone went through with a weed eater.in one night.
                                this process has been a great lesson. mighty glad we aren't dependent on the crop this year..

                                our mulched garden space has huge piles of chips and other items over it. that needs to be corrected. when we quit gardening. i took down the fencing. big mistake... some rabbit fencing and
                                deer fencing need to go on the shopping list. quickly... prices going up!
                                Well, Patriotic Sheepdog and I have been entertaining each other with our garden chronicles; it would be great to have you join in on the fun!

                                The trellis frame went as well as the implant - dentist decided I need a new implant crown, and my husband decided he needs to rethink the shade cloth frame and get more fittings and another 1-1/2" ID pipe. He wanted to jump the gun to hurry up (and that rarely works) and get it done by building long sections. I added my words of wisdom and I think we're off to the hardware in the morning. While the shade cloth is doing its job draped over the top of the trellises, I feel like the Hunchback of Notre Dame trying to pick tomatoes and beans under there.

                                Critters: Most creepy crawly or flying insects don't take well to Bt. You can buy it at Home Depot as Thuracide, or order online as Monterey Bt from Amazon. It's an organic insecticide you can mix up in a sprayer and it works very well. I have a bit of Cutter yard insecticide left in its hose end spray bottle, and that spray bottle is a magnificent monster! It's about to be repurposed for Bt; it sprays the whole length of my trellis rows without me having to move, so zip zip and it's done. I would buy Cutter just for the hose end spray bottle. When I got squash vine borers, I injected full strength Bt into the plant stems and only lost 3 squash plants.

                                Animals: You need fencing and also some netting over it to keep out birds as well. There are chemical deterrents but I like to dissuade them otherwise. There's not much of any way to keep them out except to contain your garden away from them.

                                Rain and heat: Same here - very little rain and way too much heat. I got around the water issue by running a giant snake of drip lines to get a good amount of moisture without spraying the leaves, so I can water anytime of the day. Since I put up the shade cloth, I've been able to water my grow bag garden just once a day instead of twice, since the shade cloth seems to be slowing evaporation and it does keep it cooler, while any rain (if we're lucky) goes right through to the plants. My container garden is on the irrigation system and has its own zone, so I can water that garden at will, plus it's shaded by the house in the afternoon when the sun is at its hottest.

                                Problems of the day: The sugar baby watermelon plant has vines running almost the full length of the trellis row, and it's taking over everything. I'm going to have to cut the vines back so my other plants can get some sun. My butternut squash plant needs to be replaced with a new one, after producing 2 nice squashes.

                                Depending on your zone, there's still time to plant again. Peas are still on the plant list, along with a lot of other things like winter squash, collards, okra and, if you have a partially shaded area, some of the earlier summer vegetables like sugar snaps, zucchini, etc. I have beautiful zucchini and yellow squash plants growing like crazy after a recent planting.
                                Last edited by surviort_wwdnet; 06-27-2022, 09:44 PM.

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