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  • Firearms for Preparedness and Survival Part 2: Armory Your 1st gun the .22

    Now you've decided to build your armory. What all are you going to buy? Most people start out with a .22 rifle or pistol. This is never a bad idea. The venerable .22 has been with us for nearly 150 years! Millons of people have learned to shoot with the .22. The ammunition is VERY inexpensive. Even with the recent price increases 500 rounds of .22 lr can be purchased for $25 or less, usually much less. Twenty Two caliber firearms allow a shooter to practice and train economically. The buy in cost of a .22 (firearm, ammo, cleaning kit and supplies) is very nominal. A .22 rifle can be purchased new for under $200 with ammo running less than $40 per 1000 rounds. Twenty Two caliber pistols usually start around $300.

    But a .22 isn't a "real" gun is it? It sure is! You can learn the fundamentals of shooting and practice them with the .22 without the the greater expense of a center fire rifle or pistol. Twenty Twos have very little muzzle blast and non existent recoil so they aren't very intimidating to the new shooter.

    Twenty Twos have some practical uses other than recreation and training. Small game like rabbits and squirrels can be taken with them and they can be used for varmint and pest control.

    Ok so you have decided to get a .22. What kind to get? .22 long rifle? .22 magnum? Rifle ? pistol? in my opinion if you intend to own a centerfire rifle and pistol you should get a .22 LR rifle and pistol for plinking and practice. In rifles, for your 1st one I would steer clear of semi autos. Wait What? Yes stear clear of semi autos like the 10/22 and the Remington 597. You are starting out and learning to shoot. In my experiance a semi auto encourages the new shooter to fire it faster than their ability. I would recommend a break action like a Rossi or a bolt action like a Marlin instead. A new shooter will be more apt to concentrate on making the shot if there is more work to do than just pulling the trigger again for the next shot. A break action or a bolt gun also handles specialty ammo that a semi auto won't handle like shorts or CB cabs. Shorts and CBs are great for no noise rodent control.

    In pistols revolvers and semi autos are both available with semi autos being more prevalent. Revolvers like break action or bolt action rifles can handle a variety of ammo that a semi auto can't. You should buy your 22 pistol , if you intend to train with it, with the same action type as your center fire pistol. Sig Saur actually makes a .22 pistol that is nearly the same size and has the same controls as there center fire pistols. Additionally Advantage Arms makes conversion kits for some center fire pistols such as Glock and 1911 to conver them to .22 (https://advantagearms.hostasaurus.co...ore_Code=AASOS ) CZ-USA also offers a .22 kit for their excellent CZ-75/85 series pistols (https://shop.cz-usa.com/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=01610)
    "You are the Vice Regent of the Jews" -QRPRAT77

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    Sage advice! Bolt guns are the ultimate survival gun because they are more reliable than an AK and you can feed them anything. My favorite rimfire is my left hand savage 22 magnum.

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    • #3
      Well shucks... I purchased a semi-auto .22LR barely a month ago! I suppose I could heed your advice by only putting one round in at a time.
      In God we trust, everyone else bring data.

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      • #4
        is it your 1st rifle? are you learning to shoot with it?
        "You are the Vice Regent of the Jews" -QRPRAT77

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sgl21-61 View Post
          is it your 1st rifle? are you learning to shoot with it?
          It is my first rifle but I also have a Mossberg 12ga that I hunt with. I sighted in my .22LR a few weeks ago but still need more practice. My goal is to hit the range at least once a month (now that it is getting warmer!) to achieve some tight spacing out to 75 or 100 yards.
          In God we trust, everyone else bring data.

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          • #6
            Knobster you should look into appleseed training. http://www.appleseedinfo.org
            "You are the Vice Regent of the Jews" -QRPRAT77

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            • #7
              I would not give up my 10/22. My son has a bolt action, I learned to shoot with and now he is. A P22 is next.

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              • #8
                men learn to hit empty .22 casings ejected from the gun up into the air, by holding the gun sideways. This is equivalent to hitting a man in the head, at 30 yds or a bit more and it's done in well under a second. A typical cop needs a second to react, raise his pistol (held at low ready) and reliably hit the chest at 5 yds. :-) A .22 autorifle, full of CCI Stingers, is no joke at all, guys. It is a very, very lethal instrument, in skilled hands. If shtf, the lack of medical care will mean that a .22 bullet in you will mean death, from infection, within a very few days.

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                • #9
                  I have been building a system of modular/scalable packs, based on modular scalable "mission kits" ...

                  After my expedition trauma kit blossomed into a ~15 pound portable infirmary, that would serve a small villiage, I quickly realized that WEIGHT (on all scales) was going to be a primary consideration.

                  I have owned a great many firearms, over the years (every action and category). I own several ARs, in several calibres and have lots of patrol and camping experience (but still have much to learn, regarding field-craft).

                  What I can opine, with authority, is that water, food, and mobility count most, if you are not able to "shelter-in-place".
                  Of course, your body core-temperature comes even before water, when the climate is extreme.

                  My point is that I know guns and I could afford and take and use ANY gun ... But, for the Bunny Apocalypse? ... 22LR subsonic would RULE! (for my own, personal, methods and philosophy, thanks).

                  I have chosen the Henry US Survival Rifle (yes, JUNK, I know) first, because of weight ... 2nd, because of the chambering (22LR) ... 3rd, because of packable size ... Additionally, cost, simplicity, limited tactical value, and ~low maint.

                  It is not a handgun ... Has no NFA Class-III features ... So, pack transport should not pique "enforcement", in almost any state.

                  Subsonic rounds (much less noisy) will not cycle, in this Henry AR-7 but, will work fine, in single-shot mode.

                  Also, Considering that this rifle, with a red-dot scope, and a 2-6x compact backup optic, and one brick (~500rds) of premium ammo weighs ... ?? ... Almost 8 pounds, including scope mounts? ... Imagine how long you could subsist on 8 pounds of granola bars + jerky !! ... More than 72 hours, fer sher !

                  And, BTW, remember that you must harvest, purify and carry a full gallon of drinking water, daily, ... And, ONE gallon of water weighs? ... 8 pounds.

                  So ... *IF* I decide to pack a gun (at all), it would not likely be in my 72 hour go-kit ... but I would (reluctantly) consider this rifle for my "Open Expedition Pack" which is designed to sustain, very comfortably, for 10+ days ... and, absolutely, will provide 30+ days of rationned "harsh" subsistence, and ... will provide the toolage to extend and improve a permanent campsite, under favorable conditions.

                  If you can harvest a bunny/tree-rat/pidgeon, just 3x/week ... one brick of 22LR should last a decent marksman up to one year ! (if all else goes well).

                  But, to my mind, guns are much like fishing kits, in a survival ("hits the fan") type scenario ... having redundant and reliable means to regulate your core temperature and to acquire, carry, and purify drinking water are vastly more pressing than hunting and fishing, which should only come into play after your (at least 3 days) food rations have been consumed. In the early stages? ... Fishing and hunting are a distraction, at best, and armed confrontation would best be totally avoided, at ALL cost ... Hunker in place, for several days, before moving ... Stay off the roads, rails, easments and waterways ... Best of luck (and blessings).
                  Last edited by Guest; 07-25-2011, 03:23 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Have 2 10/22's a ruger charger and 2 walther p22s....my wife and girls love them. They can learn to shoot without being kicked so hard. The .22lr is a great caliber and more people have been killed by a .22 then any other caliber. This is a definite must have in anyones locker. Ammo is cheap and you can carry a lot of rounds. Took out the charger last week bought it used for under 250. its the best of both worlds....can use it as a rifle or pistol...takes the same 10/22 mags. The walther p22 is an excellent pistol for those with small hands or for people to learn on. They are not heavy and mimic larger semi autos so function drills are the same when transitioning to a larger caliber. The only draw back to the walther is they are picky on ammo...cci stingers work the best and you can usually get 500 rds for 29.00 at the wholesale ammo guy at gunshows
                    The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
                    Thomas Jefferson

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                    • #11
                      Just got a Ruger 10/22 take down, waiting to put scope on it. Also got a Remington 700 SPS... Does anyone know where to buy 500 rounds of 22 for under $40 ?

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                      • #12
                        highender, I'm not sure where you are from but you can buy most ammunition over the internet. Here is a link to Cabela's where you can buy 525 rounds of .22LR for only $21.99 (plus shipping)

                        http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot...3Bcat104536080
                        Liberty is not a means to a political end. It is itself the highest political end."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by highender View Post
                          Just got a Ruger 10/22 take down, waiting to put scope on it. Also got a Remington 700 SPS... Does anyone know where to buy 500 rounds of 22 for under $40 ?

                          The ChinArkansas Mercantile. Only made in the USA stuff in there seems like.

                          I get 350 for $13.99 and 575 for $19.99 there. Just practice stuff
                          You know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this?

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