Holograph Scopes

[Klayton]

OK all, lets get back to survival & preparedness... :)

Thinking of adding a holograph scope to the Mrs. new AR.

Aimpoint (only offers red dot retina-I think)
vs
EOTech (offers different retinas-other than just plain red dot)
vs
Trijicon (ya that bad boy is bookoo $$$)

As a side note, do they make lasers (for my handgun) that puts out a larger "dot" at 20-30feet? Being partially colorblind my current laser is VERY hard to see in daylight hours past 20 feet. Yes I know it also probably needs a new battery, but always been hard for me to quickly ID the small red dot at distance in daylight... :cool:

So any of you experienced with any of these for the AR platform? :confused:
What pros and cons can you enlighten me with? :confused:

LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!!

[1Admin]

Shot a CAR15 with an ACOG a couple times and it was nice- and actually worked ;) (key words, "a couple times").

Had an ACOG 339 on one of my Polytech AK's for a while years ago. 3X magnification helped seeing the target enough to whack it regularly at 300 yards. I've since moved that unit over to an M1A and like one of the staff here commented after shooting it at 300 yards

"you feel like your cheating with it." LOL

The nice thing about an ACOG is that stuff happens and no matter what, I don't have to worry about batteries with it. Interfaces nicely with a PVS14 also.

Fundamentals are fundamentals, no question there. However you get to a point sometimes as you age (I did) where a little magnification helps at distance. Specially with those "inaccurate dumb commie rifles" some of us like to shoot ;0

[xdpatriot]

I have an EOTECH on my wife's AR. I have an Trijicon on mine.

The EOTECH stopped working at one point and I had to buy another battery cap for it. ($20) I've know some guys that hated their EOTECH and some guys who loved 'em. One guy told me he was replacing his EOTECH every 6 months overseas.

The only experience I have with Trijicon is the ACOG. I have never heard anyone say anything bad about an ACOG. Yeah, they're expensive, but you get what you pay for. Their reliabilty is legendary, plus no batteries! I really like mine although it does take some getting used to the small eye relief.

I don't have any experience with the AIMPOINTs, but I have heard good things about them. I've heard alot of people say that the battery life on the AIMPOINT is way longer than the EOTECH. I know my wife's EOTECH's batteries don't last long at all. Hers is the 516 that uses CR123 batteries. My frined that has a 512 that uses AA batteries tells me he doesn't have problems with his battery life.

[boltgun308]

I have had several EOTECH's and they all went tits up. The battery cap has been a problem for quite a while and I have had some eat a battery in a week with very little use. I will not buy another.

The Aimpoint has a battery life of several years. You can leave them on, they will shut down, and when they sense movement, they will come back on. It comes back on immediately.

[Not_Yet_Prepped]

The Aimpoint has a battery life of several years. You can leave them on, they will shut down, and when they sense movement, they will come back on. It comes back on immediately.

Battery life has been an issue why I never bought one... Having to turn on/off a sight under highstress did not seem like a very good idea... But that sounds awesome! I have to go check those out.

[Grand58742]

I've got an EOTech that runs on AA batteries and I've never had a problem with it. It's an earlier model so maybe that's the ticket. Also used an Aimpoint M68 (Comp M2) extensively and have one of those as well. Never used an ACOG so I can't comment on that.

About the only problem I have with the Aimpoint is the on/off and brightness knob. I've seen more than a few broken. Plus that goofy type of battery (the DL1/3N)

I prefer the EOTech over the Aimpoint because of the viewing reticle and the fact it takes common AA batteries more than anything. I've thought of upgrading the Aimpoint to the AA type, but the EOTech is my go to sight for an AR and I've never bothered.

It more or less comes down to personal preference. The EOTech takes some getting used to with the dual aiming (large circle for close quarters and the red dot for point) but the battery life on the Aimpoint lasts forever. The EOTech can still work with the window broken while the Aimpoint isn't as rugged in my experience.

Honestly, if you can, try both (actually all three) before buying and see which one tickles your fancy.

[jte3470]

I've used both the ACOG and the eotech and would use the EOtech if I were going to use the weapon for Home defense or CQB. If I were to use the weapon for longer shots in rapid succession then I would go with the ACOG. For me the EOtech has a brighter reticle and I use it more often than the ACOG due to faster target aquisition.

[ridgerunner]

I started out with an original Bushnell Holosight. I am running an Eotech right now. No problems with the AA batteries.

[Matt In Oklahoma]

OK all, lets get back to survival & preparedness... :)

bout time
I have an Eotech. I love it except for the “N” batteries and the life. I got a great deal on it and didn’t think the odd battery would be an issue but it is. The nice thing is with the co-witness iron sights it is no issue if/when the battery dies. I’m old school so irons will always be present and used. I would go with a common AA and probably the Aimpoint next.

[boltgun308]

You guys running the red dots, give the 1-4x variable power scopes with illuminated reticles a shot. The reticle is still present when the lights go out and a lot of them have hold over reticles for the different yardages. The magnification is nice when you need it and it is not a paper weight when the battery goes dead.

[CLT46910]

I use a Eotech on my home defense M-4 that uses AA batteries. Never had a problem with it and I like it. Then again I might not run it as hard as some would do. Maybe about like a LEO does, not like it was in combat.

If I need to shoot out to 300 yards I have a couple of other scoped guns for that.

[45B]

Anyone tried the Primary Arms Microdot sight on AR's or AK's?

Thinking about getting one for an AR for my son.

[Bill Foster]

Has anyone had any experience, good or bad, with NC Star holographic scopes.

[nakattack]

i've used both the aim point (cco) in iraq and Acoq in Afghanistan in combat and both are good sytems. I forgot the specifics for the cco but it runs for a good amount of time with one battery and is very rugged. It's accurate up to 300 or 400 yards and its one of the site systems you can keep both eyes open and fire at your target, though its wierd to get used to. The acog is great for distance but anything closer then 20 or 30 meters its better just do the point and shoot method. honestly for what site you want you should decide what you're going to be using your weapon for. for close quarter stuff mostly i'd get aim point but for just a generally good site to put on a weapon i'd get a acoq and put a peep site kit on the top of it, it'll only be accurate up to 25 meters i think but that gives you back the close quarter factor. oh and acogs are rugged as hell, don't know how many times i've taken a tumble down a mountain side and banged up my site but it keeps going.

[onebigelf]

I've run an Aimpoint for years. I like that the battery life is so long. It took me awhile to get used to not paying attention to looking through the scope. Keep both eyes open, get a proper cheek-weld, and just look where you're shooting. The dot is there. Your eye picks it up and superimposes it. All those years of concentrating on picking up my front sight, it took me some retraining! Now it's fast and so stupid easy it might as well be a video game. I also have a number of the Bushnell TRS-25 sights. The battery life isn't anywhere near the Aimpoint and it uses the 2032 watch batteries instead of AAs. On the other hand, it uses 2032 watch batteries which are cheap and plentiful. It has a decent field of view, none of them have failed yet, and the 5 of them cost me less than the Aimpoint. I have them as CQB backups on the AR-10 and AR-15 that wear scopes (on a 45 degree angle mount), on the AK, on the dedicated 22lr AR-15 upper, and on the 9mm carbine. I'll probably pick up a couple of spares and put one on the Ruger MK3.

John

John