If only ammo did not cost so much?

[Not_Yet_Prepped]

I found these gen 3 Glock 22s (.40) that happen to be police trade ins for what appears to be a steal...

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1GLK22G3&name=Glock+22+.40cal+Handgun&groupid=3

If only .40 ammo was cheaper!

[Spock]

[Not_Yet_Prepped]

Spock,

I always assumed reloading was time consuming and difficult... That looks pretty quick and easy and those presses (after a 2 second search) do not appear to cost too much.

[Matt In Oklahoma]

Spock,

I always assumed reloading was time consuming and difficult... That looks pretty quick and easy and those presses (after a 2 second search) do not appear to cost too much.

You will not save money loading but will shoot more for what you spend. It is rewarding. It is not near as cost effective as it used to be though. One can become gun poor pretty quick my too many calibers.

[Klayton]

ok watching the video, which is the step that puts the primer in, or are they already in the case?

[Klayton]

oh wait i think i get it, the little black thing on the side is adding the primer?

[ssonb]

Most everyone who wants to get into reloading needs to start with a single stage press setup. We all need to start slow and with the basics. There are many ways to mess up a reload. I have been reloading for thirty years and still load with a RCBS Rockchucker single stage, I like to touch and inspect every brass,resize,trim,prime,powder load,bullet and crimp. A year ago I had a person give me 500 7.62x51 brass with the military crimped primers. OH boy! I cleaned deprimed and resized about 20 0f them and then discovered that they woud not allow the bolt to fully close on my Savage or Ruger,after a few weeks of investigation I discovered that the rounds had been fired thru a Machine gun and the shoulder angle was pushed out(worn out chamber?out of spec??) who knows. I bought a set of Small base dies, unloaded the rounds and set the dethp at .005 deeper and resized this reset the shoulder at the neck and now the function perfectly. For me if I had been using a multi stage press I would have loaded a couple a hundred defective rounds!!..Like Dirty Harry said "It's good for a man to know his limitations."

[45B]

I took my last Glock and bought a 22lr kit for it. Loved it to practice with. Point of aim was the same as my full power loads at 25 yards and less.

Used the same holsters and kit and the sights were the same except for the night sights part. Saved tons of money shooting and taught my kids without scaring them to death with the noise and recoil.

Now my son shoots my 45ACP 1911 and is a very good shot. Still use the 22lr conversion kits in the Glock and the AR and have a good time for just a few dollars.

[Not_Yet_Prepped]

@45B

Thanks for that thought... I have looked at the .22lr bolt for an AR serveral times but had not thought about it for GLOCK.

[monkeybird]

The price of ammo, even practice ammo, is the reason I don't practice more often. Last time I went, it was over $75.00 for the ammo and range time.

[Spock]

reloading some or all of your ammo can stretch your training budget alot further. lets look at 9mm.

the best price i can find it is at wal mart. $19.97 for the 100 pack of federal. thats $.20 a shot.

I purchased at the gun show 2k nickel 9mm brass for $45. thats 2.25 cents per case

I just purchased, at the outlandish price of $4.29 per 100 of cci primers. i had a bass pro gift card. otherwise the gun show price is like $30 per 1000. lets go with the bass pro price.

4.29 cents per primer.

i purchased 2k 95 grn tmj .355 inch bullets from RMR reloading for $117.90. thats 5.8 cents per bullet.

a pound of red dot runs $21 at bass pro. the charge weight is 5.3 grains. there are 7k grains to a pound so 1.6 cents for powder. lets add it up.

bullet 5.8
primer 4.3
case 2.25
powder 1.6

thats $ .14 cents a shot. and thats paying way too much for primers and buying cases. if you recycle your cases and buy your primers 5k at a time at a gun show you can shave 3 cents a round off that.

and thats 9mm. 380 is what $18 a box of 50? same bullet same primer and LESS powder. 10 cents vs 36. thats a no brainer.

[TyrannyUnleashed]

Let me ask you reload folks.
I want to learn how to re-load, but the one question I have (at this point) is...

Are there re-loaders that will handle both bullets and shotgun shells?
I'm tired of leaving my brass and shells behind, for someone else to use.

Thanks,
TU

[Matt In Oklahoma]

Are there re-loaders that will handle both bullets and shotgun shells?

Not that i am aware of, they are 2 seperate presses because of the different dynamics it takes to load the shells vs cartridges

[boltgun308]

RCBS used to make a set of shotshell reloader dies for a single stage RCBS press. They discontinued it a long time ago. I looked for one for several years before I finally just bought a PW 375 Duo-matic