Georgia Gun Owners Going for Constitutional Carry

[qrprat77]

Heh:

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/georgia-gun-owners-going-for-constitutional-carry

[QUOTE]

Licensing should not be part of exercising the right to keep and bear arms, the grassroots group Georgia Gun Owners asserts in a press release issued today. Announcing the pre-filing of the Georgia

[Cimarron]

I dunno GRP. My initial reaction is, without some kind of gun carry regulation you run the risk of criminals and most possibly violent felons carrying and trying to get by with it. If it's open or conceal carry, the thugs might feel more bold in carrying iron.

If regular joe sees someone carrying in the open they wouldn't know if that person is a law abiding citizen or someone that could carry out a violent crime.
On the other hand..
If a bad guy knew (or even seen) more folks carrying they might think twice because the law abiding "Joe" would shoot back...


Heh, I just countered my own point. Lol

Interesting prospects isn't it?

[qrprat77]

I can personally garauntee you that a hardened violent criminal doesn't care about concealed carry laws RIGHT NOW.
I do appreciate the point though. I think that if such a law were to pass it would be the responsibility of every citizen lawfully able to possess a firearm to carry one at all times, specifically because you wouldn't know who is armed.

[qrprat77]

Love 'em or hate 'em Jeff Cooper will may everyone smile at least once:

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Those who suggest the feasibility of a nationwide pistol permit must realize that such a procedure would be un-constitutional according to the Tenth Amendment (assuming anyone still pays any attention to the Tenth Amendment). However, since the Constitution preceding the Bill of Rights makes it clear that states are bound to honor the acts of other states it would seem to follow that a citizen who has a permit to carry in a permit-to-carry state may expect his permit to honored in any other permit-to-carry state. The legal aspects of this issue are not fully understood and one should not expect the gendarme on the beat to be fully apprised of the situation.
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From February 1996.

http://myweb.cebridge.net/mkeithr/Jeff/jeff4_3.html

[golfroot]

I'm glad to see that they're still keeping the CHL avenue open for their folks. Reciprocity is a wonderful thing. 36 states reciprocate with NC.:D

[Not_Yet_Prepped]

risk of criminals and most possibly violent felons carrying and trying to get by with it.

Criminals dont have a respect for the law already, they dont care if they are allowed to steal your car or not... They don't care that runing drugs is illegal, and they are most likely already walking around with their guns. And just because you have allowed "Constitutional Carry" the law about convicted felons even owning a gun has not changed...

[snare]

Good for the people of Georgia !

This is good for all of us !

[Not_Yet_Prepped]

Snare,

Great point if Georgia gets the "Constitutional Carry" it is good for everyone! The more states that allow the Constitutional Carry the more our state (what ever state you are in) will consider it. I hope this trend swepts accros our nation. If Georgia gets it passed they will be the 5th state with it. But currently there are several considering it...

It is funny to note that the states that have Constitutional Carry are some of the states that you would consider the "Safest" Vermont, Alaska, Arizona and Wyoming of those four, Arizona is the only one that makes the news with violence and that violence is usually Boarder/Drug War type violence.

[Cimarron]

Criminals dont have a respect for the law already, they dont care if they are allowed to steal your car or not... They don't care that runing drugs is illegal, and they are most likely already walking around with their guns. And just because you have allowed "Constitutional Carry" the law about convicted felons even owning a gun has not changed...

I agree.
I was thinking more from a "criminal mind" view. Which I shouldn't do because I'm not one..
Thug A, thinks this law will make it easier to pack his 9 cause everybody is doing it and he'll fit in better because the po'lice can't card ever boda ...

Most convicted felons, or even non-convicted, law breaking people, that have no regard for law's or the rights of others could care less about the ramifications of some law, but how they can take advantage of it.

I wasn't suggesting against a "Constitutional Carry" just musing on possible effects of one..

[crossbow]

I dunno GRP. My initial reaction is, without some kind of gun carry regulation you run the risk of criminals and most possibly violent felons carrying and trying to get by with it. ?

come on , do you really think criminals or "Violent Felons" care about regulations, everyone should have the right to protect themselves.

[Cimarron]

come on , do you really think criminals or "Violent Felons" care about regulations, everyone should have the right to protect themselves.

Perhaps you should read it again, and then read my second post again, and see where I was coming from.

Reading is fundemental.

[jloneill17]

The group www.georgiacarry.org is a gun rights group that fights for gun rights in the state of GA. I am a member and we do not believe that you should have to apply for a GA Weapons License in order to carry a firearm. If you pass the ATF background check and can buy a gun, then why do you have to pay extra $ for a license to conceal carry. In GS, you have to have the GWL to conceal. You don't have to have the license if you just want to carry openly like wyatt earp or something. I hope they get it passed. They are using the GWL as another means to squeeze $ out of us that we shouldn't have to pay anyway because we are afforded that right by the constitution.

[Not_Yet_Prepped]

I hope you guys get your Constitutional Carry... But please push to get a law that allows you to ALSO go through to get a Permit so that you can have "reciprocity" laws with other states that are NOT as "PROGRESSIVE" as GA. I think Vermont is a "Constitutional Carry" state (which is great) but they have no means to be able to issue CCW or CCH permits, so the citizens of that state when traveling to other states can not carry their self-protection with them. So Alaska now has "Constitutional Carry" but also allows you to get a permit if wish to travel so that reciprocity agreements with the other states still works for you. Those type of laws where the laywers where actaully paying some attention to how new laws will actaully affect the citizens.c

My states may be wrong... Still looking for sources on that info... But I have read about some states including the ablity to still get a permit within the Constitutional Carry Bill for reciprocity reasons.