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  • Side Folding or Telescoping Stock?

    So sooner than later, the ol' WASR-10 is getting new muzzle bling. Shortly there after I plan getting it a new stock.
    I would like input as to whether you would get a side folding or telescoping (M-4 style) stock and why.
    DISCUSS!
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  • #2
    I have a telescoping stock on a couple of diffrent rifles and really like them. What I like most is the ability to adjust the lenght of pull for when I'm wearing more or less clothing, vest etc. I also think it dissipates felt recoil better.
    Survival question. What do I need most, right now?

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    • #3
      If you have any intent to carry the rifle in a discreet carry bag (folding chair bag, pack etc), the folding stock is invaluable. It also allows for more compact storage.

      And I believe most, if not all, folding stocks for AKs allow for full use of all four operational controls (charging handle, trigger, selector and mag release). This means the rifle can be more easily used when in a vehicle for example.
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      • #4
        I can not for the world of me remember who manufacturers it... but, there is a company the makes a side folding/telescoping combo stock. Saw them several times but never personally used one so I can not tell you the quality. This is the best of both worlds I guess.

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        • #5
          Thanks for the input guys! So far, I seem to be left with only one option, buy another rifle, and put a telescoping stock on one, and a folding stock on the other.
          :)
          Right now, my gut is telling me go with the side folding stock.
          Can anyone give me a real good reason not to use one?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by qrprat77 View Post
            Thanks for the input guys! So far, I seem to be left with only one option, buy another rifle, and put a telescoping stock on one, and a folding stock on the other.
            :)
            Right now, my gut is telling me go with the side folding stock.
            Can anyone give me a real good reason not to use one?
            Does it interfere with the safety/charging handle operation when folded? I have encountered this in a few aftermarket rifle products
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Matt In Oklahoma View Post
              Does it interfere with the safety/charging handle operation when folded? I have encountered this in a few aftermarket rifle products
              The particular model I was looking at swings to the side opposite the safety and charging handle.
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              • #8
                And, to be more specific in what I said above for others who are learning from this thread, the wire side folders are designed so all four operational controls are fully functional while the stock is folded. The wire side folder folds to the right (towards the safety and charging handle).
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                • #9
                  thats the ace.

                  i have a VLTOR adaptor tube on mine with a stag arms m4 stock body. i like it. the AR15 style stocks are big improvement over the comblock stocks especially for shooting prone.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Spock View Post

                    the AR15 style stocks are big improvement over the comblock stocks especially for shooting prone.
                    Why ?

                    I ask because not only have I never heard that, but my experience with the wood AK stock, ACE folder and a wire folder, for example, would indicate they were just fine for shooting from prone or any position.
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                    • #11
                      Ive used the basic comblock wood, arsenal synthetic stock and the wire folder you use, the Tapco t-6 and Vltor setup. here is my assesment of each:

                      1. Comblock. cheek weld ok BUT the narrowness of the butt plate combined with its smooth steel causes the stock to want to slip off the shoulder in a downward motion when shooting prone

                      2. the wire folder worse cheek weld same issue with slippage

                      3. arsenal stock same as comblock wood

                      4 AR stock. the AR type stock has easily twice the foot print that the comblock stocks have. this spreads the recoil forces out over a larger area of the shoulder. The stock also has sharp knurles on the butt which grabs your clothing and keeps it from slipping. inshort the AR stocks get a better grip on your shoulder.

                      its one of those you don't notice it till you try it. I've got a spare tapco t-6 stock I could send you if you wanna try it. you will likely find you need less rearward pressure on the rifle to keep the stock in the pocket. in my case i was using both an AR and an AK and noticed how the AK wanted to "jump" down out of the pocket on my shoulder and the AR didn't so I picked up a cheap used T-6 tried and liked it and then upgraded to the Vltor setup.
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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the offer.

                        I have never had any of the stocks slip when shooting prone.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Spock View Post
                          thats the ace.

                          i have a VLTOR adaptor tube on mine with a stag arms m4 stock body. i like it. the AR15 style stocks are big improvement over the comblock stocks especially for shooting prone.
                          Spock,
                          thats the one, an ACE SOCOM stock w/ AK adaptor for side folding. Like I said seen them never used one.

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                          • #14
                            Great conversation so far gang,
                            both of the stocks I've been looking at are made by tapco,
                            the sidefolder:


                            and the T6.


                            Spock, how did you like the T6 overall?
                            And how did you (if you did) attach a sling to it?
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                            http://skattagun.blogspot.com
                            "3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
                            --Spock
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by qrprat77 View Post
                              Great conversation so far gang,
                              both of the stocks I've been looking at are made by tapco,
                              the sidefolder:


                              and the T6.


                              Spock, how did you like the T6 overall?
                              And how did you (if you did) attach a sling to it?
                              that folder is pretty crappy. the whole thing is plastic including the hinge. its pretty wobbley. the folder SNARE uses is all steel and very tough. while i'm not fond of the cheek weld on the romanian side folders they are pretty much indestructible. i know a guy who put one on a saiga 12 and it was wobbly. I've even told a tapco rep they need to make the hinge out of steel.

                              The T-6 on the other hand is pretty decent. I know someone who stuck one on a chi com ak and then took that rifle to about 12 classes over 3 years and didn't bend or break it.

                              i used mine for about 6 or 8 months and over all i like it. it has 2 short commings and they are the screws it comes with are really too short they tend to work loose every 5-600 rounds. replacing them with longer screws fixes that. the other is the sling swivl on the side is made of plastic and it can break. i know i broke one. paracord is your friend
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