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If I had $300 I would stand outside the gunshow and catch the guy coming out with the $400 glock or other quality pistol that didnt sell. Just a thought.
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Good idea Matt. If they didn't sell it in the show, they may be willing to take $300 cash on the way out. Many people need cash now days with the unemployment.Protecting the sheep from the wolves that want them, their family, their money and full control of our Country!
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Most gun shows have a separate exit for the vendors, dont be going around standing in this area unless you want the local police stopping you and harassing you.
Check out the vendors prior to closing and when you see the glock guy closing shop, strike then. Most vendors pack their goods up nice and tight and secure before leaving the "gun room", asking them after they locked everything up will usually get you a "Go to **** look."
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why can't you work some overtime, borrow some more $, sell something less important and get a better gun? is your life, freedom and honor not worth another $200 or so? sheesh. Still, a used PF-9, from Keltec, is an excellent choice, because it can be carried in the ideal holster, in the front pants pocket, for $250. If you have really small pockets, the same company''s 380 is 9 ozs, and can be had used for the same money. Load it with Mag Safe's 60 gr, 1500 fps load, and it will do you fine, really, for typical civilian self defense. A Star 9mm BM is a very, very fine choice, for $250, search for it on GunBroker.com auctions, or on GunsAmerica.comComment
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no more skill than typical cops have, you can have with just a few hundred rds of 9mm per year, 1000 rds of .22lr per year (in a mirror image gun) and a few thousand rds (1/2 c each) of Airsoft. So much for wearing out your pistol, or needing spare parts, more than one spare mag, etc. If you are smart, and don't waste time and money on bs beyond 5 yds, and do most of your practicing at 10 ft and less, you can have a LOT more relevant defensive skill than the typical cop or military man has.Comment
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Really do tell, what are we basing this on?Originally posted by lungs View PostKnowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is ConfidenceComment
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Lowdown makes a good point, if your going with an auto make sure to account for what mags are going to cost you. Recently a friend of mine got a Star PM 9mm at a great price of $150. Shoots great, all steel, accurate, reliable, but it only came with one mag and additional ones are more than $50 each. We both have the same rule of thumb, minimum mags for a auto handgun or rifle is 6.
Now that just added another $300 to his $150 buy. If you set on an auto for under $300 look for police trade-in's. Weidners and Centerfire Systems just had Ruger P89's for about $250, finish is worn but still servicable, they also had CZ75 9mm's for under $300. Southern Ohio Guns have brand new FEG 9mm Highpowers for $250, mine uses the same mags as the Browning.
If your not heart set on an auto there are plenty of police trade in revolvers out there for under your price. Just gotta shop around. Where I tend to favor S&W prelock revolvers, Rugers GP100 is built like a take and will take a steady diet of magnum loads with a problem, and you have the flexibility of .38 special and .357 mag in the same gun. My rule of thumb is 4 speedloaders with my revolvers.
Just my 2 cents. Good luck in your search."The difference between genius and stupidity is . . .genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein
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wow this post is olde! thanks evreyone for the help!I am my own audienceComment
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There are a lot of good used revolvers out there for that price....I think the biggest thing is to find whats comfortable to you...pick one caliber of pistol and stick with it....lots of good eastern block surplus out there in 9x18 mak....The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
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those bersa thunder looks like a cool little gun. Ive never owned one myself - I think they go for around 300Comment
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I picked up a Smith 5906 stainless 9mm from a LEO for $300. While it is too bulky (and heavy) for me for CC, it eats anything I feed it, shoots great. This gun has performed well for me and rides in my truck always.
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Revolvers, as earlier stated, are usually found for under $300.
Used pistols (again I am old school and pistol = semiautos, yes I know alot of people say pistol = handgun) can be found for under $300.
Bersa, again as earlier stated, are usually fairly inexpensive. You can also get this one with a built in grip laser. MSRP is between $190-250.
Kal-Tec 380s were actually our number one backup guns for Maryland PD at my short duty at the gun shop while stationed there. MSRP approx $250.
We did have a 9mm makarov, again earlier stated, but that baby sat there forever and a day and still never sold.
Great Gun! But finding ammo = a difficulty I would not want to handicap my arsenal with... (its ballistics capability falls in line with the 380s, NOT the 9mm NATO/Parabellum)Comment
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I owned a Hi-Point 9mm, one of their compensated models (no longer in production) for about 3 years. Ugly, heavy, clunky, but utterly reliable and easy to shoot. Would I carry it as a CCW? No, it isn't small enough, light enough, or high enough capacity for me. BUT, I wouldn't turn one down if I was in a situation that required a gun and I was caught without (not likely, but possible). The only reason for my no longer owning it is my lack of love for the 9mm cartridge (there is a Hi-Point .45 in the safe, though, alongside my Glock 21 and my Taurus PT145).
But then, I'm more concerned with the function of the gun than the name. If it feeds properly and functions properly and is fairly accurate, it is a good gun, IMHO.Brokedownbiker
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I'm sure you've heard, "Don't take a knife to a gun fight". Well, if you know you're going to a gunfight, almost any gun is better than no gun--even a Hi-Point. And if money is the limiting factor, I'd consider that a $200 Hi-Point wil let you buy a hundred dollars of ammo, whereas a $275 used Taurus will only let you buy $25 of ammo. My Hi-Point 9mm has never failed but I don't shoot it much. On the other hand, If I knew I was going to a gunfight I'd probably take everything I could get there including a couple of .22's. There is no perfect gun, so get what you can afford and what you can afford to shoot.
good luck,
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Remember, if you have a Hi-Point you also have a heavy weight thrown projectile at your disposal. hehehe sorry couldn't resist...Originally posted by errn View PostComment
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