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  • CZ Rifles:

    First off, I had never realized they had control round feeding in many of their rifles. A plus in my book. Anyway...

    Anyone have any experience with their rifles? I saw a used 527 Carbine yesterday chambered in 7.62x39. Liked the feel of it, handled nicely, pointed naturally, light enough to throw over the shoulder and carry around without worrying about the weight.

    I'm looking at getting a temporary/permanent carbine type rifle before I get my complete stash brought out here from storage. Nobody really makes a carbine bolt action type rifle chambered in .223 or 7.62x39. I'm not looking for a .308 or .243 rifle, just a smaller, but still potent caliber capable of dealing with varmint problems on the property. And this is being for property protection as well until such time as the remainder of my goods come out. Five round magazine doesn't really give one the great comfort of additional rounds, but if you place rounds right, five rounds (plus another couple of spare mags) ought to be just fine.

    And furthermore, I would prefer not to get another caliber as I'm attempting to keep everything standardized. I understand .22-250 or .220 Swift is probably the best when it comes to long range varmint control, but I'm not looking at that far of engagement. Additionally, try finding a .22-250 WITHOUT a heavy varmint barrel. So really, the 527 Carbine is about the only listing out there I've found. And again, not looking at a full sized rifle or auto-loading carbine yet or at least until I get my life situated out here. A nice bolt carbine ought to be sufficient for what I'm looking for. Anyway...

    Anyone have any experience good or bad with CZ rifles? Their pistols are built like tanks, but I know very little about their rifles. I'm not looking just yet for another auto loading carbine (but it's on the list) and would prefer something in the bolt gun arena since it lends itself to universal applications. And I'm torn between the .223 and 7.62 Soviet chambering. The .223 comes with a 1/12 twist which limits it to 55 grain ammo...not a big deal as there are plenty of offerings around that weight. The 7.62x39 comes with more of a punch at closer ranges, but accuracy over the distance isn't as great as the .223. Looking at distances of up to 200-250 yards of shooting. Any more than that, I'm in my neighbor's property and I plan to be a good neighbor.

    It will serve as a anti-yote, anti-other varmint, anti-two legged varmint and self protection carbine until I get my other toys brought out.

    Advice?
    Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.

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    I have a friend that has one and it is a real nice piece that doesnt seem to have issues.
    I wouldnt discount heavier bullets just because of the twist, that is a theory more than fact because it doesnt hold true in every weapon IMO.
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    • #3
      Buddy has a CZ in .22LR, that is a Niiiiiiice shooter.
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      • #4
        I've had a CZ 550 / .270 since 2003 bought it while stationed at Offutt). It is my only hunting rifle and I like it. No problems what so ever and very accurate. The action is a modified Mauser. One unique thing is the single set trigger.

        The 527's are a smaller version fro what I know. CZ barrels are excellent by the way.

        The only con is the bolt through is a bit high so the scope may sit a little higher that you are used to which will change your stock weld a bit.

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        • #5
          Yeah, I'm addicted to buying guns...

          Picked up the 527 Carbine in 7.62x39mm today. Figured if it had waited this long for me, I might as well give it a good home. $600 with Millet Scope rings included (no scope though) and only one magazine. Used, but looked like it was a safe queen or really well taken care of. No dents or dings on the stock, barrel looks clean as a whistle, actions need a little oil, but nothing serious. There was even a practice target included with the box from the previous owner. Either Brown Bear ammo doesn't do so well in it or the guy wasn't that good a shooter. 5 inch groups at 100 yards according to the target. But...that just means I have to try all sorts of different loads with it and shoot more and well, you get the idea.

          I'll post up a range report after I fire it.
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          • #6
            The only "CZ" rifle I own is a VZ-24. It's every bit a quality Mauser as anything I've ever seen out of the Mauserwerke.

            From reading blog postings written by folks working in Iraq as consultants, the only 7.62x39 ammo they trust is Winchester, FWIW.

            And since you have a weapon that relies on you to make it cycle (as opposed to springs), you can experiment with slower burning powders and 150 grain .311 bullets. From messing around with a sporterized No4 Enfield, I can recommend (sp?) Prvi Partizan brass. Speer makes a 150 grain soft point with a BC of about 430, IIRC.

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            • #7
              Glad you got your rifle Grande! I have always wondered about the CZ's in the 7.62 x 39 chambering. Looking forward to a range report!

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              • #8
                My daughter has the CZ in 223 ,in 8 years no trouble at all and it was used when she got it. I have loved the idea of the CZ in 7.62-39, but was reasonably sure you would have to shot good ammo in it to get good groups (its always been like that with every other gun i own), and ive never seen anybody shoot good 7.62 ammo. Does any body make "match" or high quality hunting ammo for this caliber? If not it only means you need to load for it and thats not a deal breaker for me. Please keep us posted i for one want to here if you can get it to make nice small groups , i know the gun most likely is capable. Ammo seems to me to be the hold up, and one of the wolf or russian ammos may shoot you just need to find out which one. My daughters gun shot best with Hornaday varmint ammo, it was alittle pricey but shot better than any of the many others we tried.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ebb View Post
                  Does any body make "match" or high quality hunting ammo for this caliber?
                  I know Hornady makes an SST version of the 7.62x39. I don't know anything about it, but Hornady has a good reputation when it comes to ammo.

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                  • #10
                    I dont know anybody that has used the SST and doesnt like it. That is where i would start!

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                    • #11
                      I use the SST in my .308 and love it, deadly on game.
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