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  • .410/.22

    Anyone familiar with
    http://www.rossiusa.com/product-deta...eadcrumbseries=
    Accuracy is fine, but penetration is the key.

  • #2
    Well, not that particular model, but I do have a Rossi single shot in 30-06. They build a good firearm. Mine's got a wood stock and I put a scope on it.
    I also like 410's, and have a single (New England Firearms), a double (Stoeger Uplander), and a bolt (Mossberg).
    410's are effective, if you respect their abilities/shortcomings. Small game (rabbits, doves, etc) at close range (less than 25 yards). I carry one of mine when doing chores or putting up the chickens for the night because they are easy to carry and the biggest thing I'd encounter would be a coon or possum after eggs.
    I don't know what your intentions are for this gun, but for small game or just plain fun it would fill the bill.
    "There is nothing so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." Winston Churchill
    Member: Veterans of Foreign Wars, Vietnam Veterans of America, American Legion, AMVETS, Society of the Fifth Infantry Division

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    • #3
      I dunno. I've always felt like a .22/410 was a "patch" rather than doing it right. The .22 is a single shot, and the 410 is not very much shot when you need it. I did own one at one time, but I sold it. That's just my take on it, as YMMV.

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      • #4
        I don't know. I actually really like the .22. I can hunt MANY things from squirrel to rabbits (standing still), even use it against larger animals if the placement opportunities arise. The .410 in shotgun form is great for suirrel as well as running rabbits. Also, never underestimate a .410 slug:

        Energy (ft.-lb.) (375gr slug)
        1873 muzzle
        1553 50yds
        1298 100yds
        967 200yds


        Compare that to say a .223 (69g BTHP):
        Energy (ft-lb.)
        1412 muzzle
        1147 100 yds
        924 200 yds

        And thats with the best .223 round in the ballistic chart, if you pick the average, the numbers are even more impressive for the .410.
        Granted you dont have true accuracy with the .410 as with the .223, but I wouldn't be shooting at anything over 50yds anyway with a .410.

        There is a place in my toolbox for pretty much every gun, just gotta know its strengths and weaknesses. :)

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        • #5
          I agree Klayton. I think a .410 is the most versatile firearm you can have. It won't tear up your meat with smaller loads, and it'll kill anything you need it to with the right shells. I do love .22s though! A lot of fun, cheap, and quieter than anything else!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Klayton View Post
            I don't know. I actually really like the .22. I can hunt MANY things from squirrel to rabbits (standing still), even use it against larger animals if the placement opportunities arise. The .410 in shotgun form is great for suirrel as well as running rabbits. Also, never underestimate a .410 slug:

            Energy (ft.-lb.) (375gr slug)
            1873 muzzle
            1553 50yds
            1298 100yds
            967 200yds
            Klayton, you must be confusing 410 slugs with something else - the 2 & 1/2" slug is 1/5 of an ounce, or 88 grains, not 375 grains.
            The 3" slug is 1/4 ounce, not much bigger.
            Checking Winchester's site:
            2 & 1/2" shell, 1/5 oz, MV is 1830 fps; ME is 651 ft pounds
            3" shell, 1/4 oz, MV is 1800 fps; ME is 788 ft pounds
            About equal to a 44 magnum out of a revolver, with one BIG difference - the light weight of the 410 slug translates into less penetration.
            "There is nothing so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." Winston Churchill
            Member: Veterans of Foreign Wars, Vietnam Veterans of America, American Legion, AMVETS, Society of the Fifth Infantry Division

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            • #7
              I'm not looking at this weapon as my go to gun, I've got an AK and a .308 for that. When it comes right down to it, a .410 is easlily capable of killing any upland game. Which is my intended useage of it. And for the simple fact that its less then 36 inches long and a little more then 5 lbs with the .22 barrel included, makes it an excellent backpack weapon.
              My original question was about the manufacturer. Not about the cal./ga.
              Accuracy is fine, but penetration is the key.

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              • #8
                Rossi makes good products.
                I'm an H&R / NEF man myself, though. Got one Rossi, five NEF's.
                "There is nothing so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." Winston Churchill
                Member: Veterans of Foreign Wars, Vietnam Veterans of America, American Legion, AMVETS, Society of the Fifth Infantry Division

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                • #9
                  Unfortunately, I haven't any experience with matched pair rifles but, not out of not wanting to. Personally, if the price is within your reasonable budget and the seller allows you to do a test fire...then do it. I think the versatility is certainly an added bonus.

                  However, I have heard some various reviews concerning the barrels must be handled as though they were your grandmother's favorite china. Any mistreatment of an uninstalled barrel could lead to accuracy problems or worst case...danger! Also, I've also heard that changing out the barrels can exhaust around the loading mech areas and may result to feed problems. Yet, I heard those first hand reports based off of the magazine fed models.

                  If not anything else, atleast it's a groovy new toy. :D

                  Good luck and keep us posted if you're able to test fire one or buy one. I'm certainly intrigued.

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                  • #10
                    i have this gun.
                    its for my little girl.
                    its accurate. trigger sucks like most single shots in its price range. but its dead on each time.
                    2 cents fwiw and all that ...
                    Hey Petunia...you dropped your man pad!

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                    • #11
                      I just bought a 20 gauge/.22 combo at ****'s for $110 you can't beat it. I have a 410/.22 and love it. The 20 is just a little bit better. You can store survival gear in the stock. I keep a Mora Knife, Bic Lighter and a garbage bag in mine with some extra .22 LR.

                      Pick one up, if you don't like it you should be able to get your money out of it. I'm betting you find a handy place for it like behind the seat of your truck.

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                      • #12
                        The fact that you have to change barrels is a big negative in my book. I'd recommend that you look for a Savage model 24- chambered in 20 ga. over .22 LR. It is a solid well built gun that is much more versatile than those that require barrel swapping. Not to mention a shotgun that will pack enough punch to be useful.
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                        • #13
                          I agree with Protus here. I have had one and wish I still did. Got mine at Academy I think. Quality was very good for the price. I don't see many Rossi guns these days.

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