I have no idea what I am doing.

[sisi62]

My two adult children are in NC. I lived there for 10 years and (not to offend any Floridians) but people in NC are SANE and still say please and thank you. I have a large extended family. 2 brothers and thier families in California and 1 brother and his family and my parents here in Florida. I came up with the idea that in order to get everyone in one place on Dec 21, 2012, I had to devise a plan. My paln was too suggest a family reunion for Christmas 2012 in the NC mountains. If I had picked Colorado or Canada, the chances were very slim that not even I could make that reunion. So, I sent out an email and let everyone know that I am planning this reunion for winter 2012 and inticed them with skiing and just being together. If I tell them the truth, they will think I am insane (not that they don't think that already) but the chances of having someone say "no we can't go" are less in the NC mountains since we have all done that before and had a good time. NC has wilderness. Thousands and thousands of miles of it. Fresh water sources, no volcanoes, no earthquakes and up wind of all nuclear sites except for ONE in SW Virginia. PLUS over the tennessee border (somewhere), Ihave yet to find out where is where the US Govt stores its MRE's for all our soldiers in an underground bunker or mountainside which would be within walking/hiking distance. Mount Mitchell is over 6800 feet. I have seen maps that predict a 2600 feet surge (goodbye Florida and goodbye California) and a split right up the Mississippi all the way to the great lakes. Plus, NC is very far from Yellowstone which is what anyone out west would surely have to deal with. I guess what I am trying to say is that we can disappear in NC and not seen foot traffic for miles. My number one concern is "other people" because when people find themselves desperate they don't think and I do not want to be anywhere around people that turn into animals and forget that they are human when everything goes to crap! I think I have thought this out well it's just that I am alone in the planning. It will be me and my parents driving up north as far as we can get in a truck and then finding alternative routes. If you look at a population map, you will see that the upper part of florida panhandle and a lot of georgia is sparsely populated except for friggin Atlanta which sits right in the middle before you hit the mountains. I don't know. Perhaps I really have not planned this as well as I should have. What is your opinion?

[sisi62]

I like the 2inch binder idea. Since I am a planner at heart. I will start that right away. It is an excellent idea! I am very "screwed" when it comes to medical issues since my father is a diabetic and 3 of us have no thyroids which would require me to figure out how I am going to deal with the insulin issues and the thryoid hormone issue. I have some medical training but I need the help of a pharmacist or biopharmacologist so that I can find out how I can turn the thyroid of a pig into acceptable medication and also use his pancrease in the same way. I have a hard time finding medical stuff online like that. If those of us that have no thyroid go a month or more without hormone, we will eventtually end u p in a coma. I am stock piling but I need to also have another alternative that I have yet to explore and figure out. I know there HAS to be a way. I don' worry about the insulin so much since I can control that with food but the thyroid issue is a real doosy!

[sisi62]

where do you keep all this stuff?

[sisi62]

my dad is insulin dependant and 3 of us are thyroid dependant since we have no thyroid and this is a HUGE issue. I know that thyroid hormone can be taken for a pig but I do not know how to do that and need to research this because even if I stockpile, which I am doing, at some point, I will need an alternative way of getting thyroid hormone or we will all end up eventually in a coma. This is how I figure it. Even if I plan to no end and we end up somewhere safe and something happens and we run out of thyroid meds and die in a coma, at least I would have tried. At least I didn't stand still and die on someone elses terms. at least I didn't drown in Florida.

[sisi62]

It's funny that you should bring up the Kayak thing. I went from taking flying lessons (scared to death of hieghts) but I at least considered it, to stealing a boat, to finally the idea of Kayaks up the gulf to Tallahasse and into Georgia and from there to NC. I have settled on the Kayak idea since they are affordable, you can carry your supplies and will only probably have to deal with other folks who have no intention of hurting you but only want to get to safety like you do. I like this idea. It makes sense.

[sisi62]

I have settled on the Kayak Idea. It is something doable and safe. Not physically strenous on my parents and the people that I will come across will only have getting to safety in mind and will probably have thier own supplies. So, This is what I will do. I feel better. How much do you know about Kayaks and what would you recommend?

[sisi62]

Thank you for taking the time to help me. I feel better reading everyones post and feeling like I am doing the right thing. I will begin slow and gear up from there. Thanks!

[Matt In Oklahoma]

Kayak? ok my experience is limited but they are like any other boat and take alot of energy and flip easily don't they? I would think real hard on that one before putting a couple of old folks in the ocean with riptides. again my experience is limited but I know it aint no old folks and supplies transport

[sisi62]

well it would be the gulf. I don't have other alternatives. I still have homework to do on the kayak thing. I just think driving a car through florida and thengeorgia to get to th eNC mountains will be even more dangerous. Flying is out and I don't own a boat unles sI steal one. Maybe I should make quite af ew altrnate plans and see how they work.

[Matt In Oklahoma]

I think that stealing a boat or plane is not something you need to be planning or planning on or really even discussing as even the posting of it constitutes breaking the law under "conspiracy". Please rethink this. Even post SHTF there will be rules as there are now but with tougher punishment. Use what you have, research the kayak but still if you havent been in one go try a rental or something and see how not physically streneous it would be for that long paddle to where you are going. You said it would be in the Gulf from Florida to Georgia then NC? I'm confused the Gulf is on the western side and where you are going is the eastern side.

[1Admin]

OK, let's chill on the "I'm gonna steal this or that" postings.

Others here have already given what looks like the advice you need- BREATHE, RELAX.

1admin