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    Anyone have or have used a Bison pump?
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    i have seen videos on them by engineer775 and a couple others on you tube. Nothing but good reviews. I have been using 12 volt pumps from tractor supply
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    • #3
      Engineer775 uses Simple Pump, not Bison. IMHO Simple pump is the way to go.

      Simple Pump offers hand well pumps and motorized well pump kits for reliable water access when you need it most. Freeze-proof, modular, and easy to install – perfect for off-grid living and emergencies.

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      • #4
        Doesn't the simple pump have more plastic pieces though?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lowdown3 View Post
          Doesn't the simple pump have more plastic pieces though?
          Are you talking about the PVC drop pipe?

          Looks like a great pump to me. In fact I'm getting ready to buy one. Another advantage I see is that a simple pump can be used to pump into your pressurized home system. I Think they are the only one that does that.



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          • #6
            Cool.

            Isn't there some pump that the pump itself is PVC and it's relatively cheap- like $400.'ish?

            We have a dedicated deep well with a handpump, but I'd like to add a Bison or something to the main well that could work in tandem with or if the AC pump went out.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by 1Admin View Post
              Cool.

              Isn't there some pump that the pump itself is PVC and it's relatively cheap- like $400.'ish?

              We have a dedicated deep well with a handpump, but I'd like to add a Bison or something to the main well that could work in tandem with or if the AC pump went out.
              I think this is what you are looking for:

              Easy-to-install "Narrow-Profile" deep-well pumps, engineered to install in the well alongside your existing electric water well pump system


              Yeah, that's what I'm doing with the simple pump, putting it the same casing with the AC deep well pump. you can also add a motor to the simple pump and pump with solar power so there are a lot of options.

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              • #8
                Thanks for the info, appreciate it. I knew one of them out there was largely/partially PVC. Wonder how that one holds up?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JethroBodine View Post
                  a simple pump can be used to pump into your pressurized home system.
                  I've seen a simple pump work on Youtube... If one hopes to pressurize their water system, good luck with that if you pump by hand... You will have arms like the Incredible Hulk and spend hours out there pumping... Motorized would do it, but still no speed demon pump...

                  On my system I hope to add something manual to drop into my AC well casing, but before that I am getting ready to add a 550 gallon cistern under my porch & pantry, then have the well pump fill the tank only. A seperate 1/2HP 120v jet pump will then pull from the tank and pressurize the system. I am finding that my well pump cannot provide enough GPM to properly backwash the oversized Kinetico filter system the previous owners installed, so the best solution for my is the above system. This will provide the GPM I need, as well as give me 550 gallons of water storage. I can also easily add a 12v pump to provide water pressure when things get really bad and I run out of gas for the Honda EU2000i generator...

                  But first I have to dig down under my porch/pantry, pour a concrete slab, brick up the walls between the brick columns that exist now, insulate it, run plumbing and electrical, before I can even install the Norwesco poly tank... Got my work cut out for me, as cash allows...

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                  • #10
                    rmpl we were talking the same putting a 100-200 gal. poly tank under the house, running a dedicated h2o line to a dedicated valve/faucet /hose bib, and run it off a cheap battery op'd pump and maybe hook up a cheap solar charger to keep the batt charged. . problem was the price of the tank... and i want to wait and see how we set up our well 1st before adding redundancy just yet.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by protus View Post
                      rmpl we were talking the same putting a 100-200 gal. poly tank under the house, running a dedicated h2o line to a dedicated valve/faucet /hose bib, and run it off a cheap battery op'd pump and maybe hook up a cheap solar charger to keep the batt charged. . problem was the price of the tank... and i want to wait and see how we set up our well 1st before adding redundancy just yet.
                      Yeah, the tank can cost you... I have found no cheaper solution yet besides the tanks at the Tractor Supply Store... (550g @ $449 / 325g @ $349). Used poly tanks are iffy in my opinion, as you don't really know what was in them or how well they will clean out, nor how long they have been sitting in the UV sun rays... With new, at least I control the contaminants... NONE!

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                      • #12
                        I use those same poly tanks (2500gal) and they aren't exactly cheap, but about the cheapest you can get without sacrificing durability or cleanliness. Aside from some dust and scratches from moving them around, they're no different than the day I bought them. No cracking or deterioration at all. Even under the blazing desert sun.

                        Rmpl, not sure if you were planning the slab just for the tank or not. They don't need one. Mine sit on clay/rock/caliche with 1-2" of wash sand on top. As long as the base is relatively flat and there's nothing sharp contacting the tank they'll be fine.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SeldomSeenSlim View Post
                          Rmpl, not sure if you were planning the slab just for the tank or not. They don't need one. Mine sit on clay/rock/caliche with 1-2" of wash sand on top. As long as the base is relatively flat and there's nothing sharp contacting the tank they'll be fine.
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                          See where the kayak trailer is stored? The small door next to it goes to my crawlspace and water treatment system. That lower area will be slabbed and walled in, and insulated. I do have to dig it down some, maybe a foot or two to fit in the 550g tank. I may have to go to a smaller tank if I run into large rock under there. The pantry above, and that porch will be closed in, the porch becoming a mud room. I am doing the slab and walls to also give me additional storage space that is cool, dark and dry. I plan to move a lot of my buckets into that space as well, free up pantry space above. Hopefully seal it up well enough to keep vermin out. So far, vermin have been a zero problem as far as preps are concerned...

                          I could have just thrown that tank under there on the dirt, but that is prime, unused real estate I need to take advantage of...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rmplstlskn View Post
                            I've seen a simple pump work on Youtube... If one hopes to pressurize their water system, good luck with that if you pump by hand... You will have arms like the Incredible Hulk and spend hours out there pumping... Motorized would do it, but still no speed demon pump...


                            Rmpl
                            Yeah it would be pretty tuff by hand. But you could do it if you were just trying to flush the toilet or something. (This is a backup remember)

                            There is a lot of options with the SP. By hand, motorized strait into system. Motorized into a holding tank and then a separate Danco pump to pressurize house. As long as you have power you'll want to stick with your normal pump.

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                            • #15
                              Makes sense. Just hated to see a guy pouring concrete if it wasn't necessary.

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