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    China and Russia ditch dollar-

    China and Russia have decided to renounce the US dollar and resort to using their own currencies for bilateral trade, Premier Wen Jiabao and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin announced late on Tuesday. Summit seeks a future for tigers


    Foreign and Military Affairs


    China, Russia quit dollar

    By Su Qiang and Li Xiaokun (China Daily)
    Updated: 2010-11-24 08:02



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    Premier Wen Jiabao shakes hands with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin on a visit to St. Petersburg on Tuesday.ALEXEY DRUZHININ / AFP
    St. Petersburg, Russia - China and Russia have decided to renounce the US dollar and resort to using their own currencies for bilateral trade, Premier Wen Jiabao and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin announced late on Tuesday.
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    Chinese experts said the move reflected closer relations between Beijing and Moscow and is not aimed at challenging the dollar, but to protect their domestic economies. "About trade settlement, we have decided to use our own currencies," Putin said at a joint news conference with Wen in St. Petersburg.
    The two countries were accustomed to using other currencies, especially the dollar, for bilateral trade. Since the financial crisis, however, high-ranking officials on both sides began to explore other possibilities.
    The yuan has now started trading against the Russian rouble in the Chinese interbank market, while the renminbi will soon be allowed to trade against the rouble in Russia, Putin said.
    "That has forged an important step in bilateral trade and it is a result of the consolidated financial systems of world countries," he said.
    Putin made his remarks after a meeting with Wen. They also officiated at a signing ceremony for 12 do***ents, including energy cooperation.
    The do***ents covered cooperation on aviation, railroad construction, customs, protecting intellectual property, culture and a joint communiqu. Details of the do***ents have yet to be released.
    Putin said one of the pacts between the two countries is about the purchase of two nuclear reactors from Russia by China's Tianwan nuclear power plant, the most advanced nuclear power complex in China.
    Putin has called for boosting sales of natural resources - Russia's main export - to China, but price has proven to be a sticking point.
    Russian Deputy Prime Minister Igor Sechin, who holds sway over Russia's energy sector, said following a meeting with Chinese representatives that Moscow and Beijing are unlikely to agree on the price of Russian gas supplies to China before the middle of next year.
    Russia is looking for China to pay prices similar to those Russian gas giant Gazprom charges its European customers, but Beijing wants a discount. The two sides were about $100 per 1,000 cubic meters apart, according to Chinese officials last week.
    Wen's trip follows Russian President Dmitry Medvedev's three-day visit to China in September, during which he and President Hu Jintao launched a cross-border pipeline linking the world's biggest energy producer with the largest energy consumer.
    Wen said at the press conference that the partnership between Beijing and Moscow has "reached an unprecedented level" and pledged the two countries will "never become each other's enemy".
    Over the past year, "our strategic cooperative partnership endured strenuous tests and reached an unprecedented level," Wen said, adding the two nations are now more confident and determined to defend their mutual interests.
    "China will firmly follow the path of peaceful development and support the renaissance of Russia as a great power," he said.
    "The modernization of China will not affect other countries' interests, while a solid and strong Sino-Russian relationship is in line with the fundamental interests of both countries."
    Wen said Beijing is willing to boost cooperation with Moscow in Northeast Asia, Central Asia and the Asia-Pacific region, as well as in major international organizations and on mechanisms in pursuit of a "fair and reasonable new order" in international politics and the economy.
    Sun Zhuangzhi, a senior researcher in Central Asian studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said the new mode of trade settlement between China and Russia follows a global trend after the financial crisis exposed the faults of a dollar-dominated world financial system.
    Pang Zhongying, who specializes in international politics at Renmin University of China, said the proposal is not challenging the dollar, but aimed at avoiding the risks the dollar represents.
    Wen arrived in the northern Russian city on Monday evening for a regular meeting between Chinese and Russian heads of government.
    He left St. Petersburg for Moscow late on Tuesday and is set to meet with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on Wednesday.
    Agencies and Zhou Wa contributed to this story.
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    "The modernization of China will not affect other countries' interests, while a solid and strong Sino-Russian relationship is in line with the fundamental interests of both countries." Wen said Beijing is willing to boost cooperation with Moscow in Northeast Asia, Central Asia and the Asia-Pacific region, as well as in major international organizations and on mechanisms in pursuit of a "fair and reasonable new order" in international politics and the economy.
    New Order part sticks out in my mind and how "the modernization will not affect other countries interests", what a load of crap that part is.
    "It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar

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    • #3
      Oh this could turn out to be very very bad for us...

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      • #4
        No big surprise here given the state of where we are. I doubt we see many immediate noticeable effects on a large scale, but when we look back years from now at milestones in the US Dollar/economy decline, this will be on that time-line. If this, along with a two stage missile off Catalina Island, is what happened as a result of QE II.....I wonder/dread what could happen with QE III, IV......

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        • #5
          Headed to wal mart to stock up on a few things. how long till high inflation really hits home? I think china just screwed russia BIG TIME. I think they bought outright, or at least rights to, eastern russia with lots of dollars. china gets LOTS of resources and land for its people plus getting rid of the dollars, russia gets money and a secure back door. If china doesn't hold lots of dollars anymore, whats to keep her from helping to devalue it? trade war? real war?
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          • #6
            Not good at all...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Klayton View Post
              Oh this could turn out to be very very bad for us...
              I'll second that, this can't be anything but bad for the dollar.

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              • #8
                Rut-Roh....No bueno.
                Thanks for the post 1Admin
                You know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this?

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                • #9
                  Anybody else getting the feeling that they just stuck the fork in the dollar?

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                  • #10
                    Seem like every day something else happens to weaken the U.S. It is interesting to note, that previously the USSR and China were enemies. Profound enemies. Now they are uniting to improve their economies. Does anyone see a pattern here.

                    I'm thinking of the lining up of the nations as told in the prophecies of Daniel. I am the poorest of Bible scholars, can anyone tell me if this fits?

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