when did it get to be PC to trash the USA, the Flag, etc.?

[rockriver]

dag nab it!
that's flagabamaese for a shorter more clearly spoken 4 letter word.

a few non patriotic bums decide to declare their lack of respect.
then a whole wad of stufheads decide to declare their unity..
and folks think it is a great thing.

I know all the fellas and gals on this site have got all the goodies and all the training and all the massive groups with all the survival stuff.
I ain't got nuthin'
I live in a high rise condo on the wrong side of the tracks.
but,
some ner' do well thinks I have an extra can of beans and a few cans of chicken so he comes a calling and wanting some grub.
so we start bonding and talkin the talk about all the stuff going on.
and i'm about to feed him some tilapia that I grew in the hallway at the condo in a drum full of stuf.
then he says.
"hey dude, you recognize me donya? I played in the nfl !! I was on tv! played for xx years and made me a boat load of money!
so I say
"no way jose. that's groovy and cool and mutha duck, you awesome! you one tuf somuvadog "
"hey dude.. you were one of those duckers that kneeled down and showed the world what a bada@@ you were and how you could 'dis' the flag. ain't dat right?"
and he say.
"man, duck dat. we sho did!"

sorry, folks. I just had to rant a while. but thanks. you can fill in the rest of the story any way you want. but i'll stop.
I feel better.

thanks.

[1Admin]

Signs of the times.

And from such an "American" endeavor/sport. It would seem more palatable if it happened at a soccer match or a Rugby game or something.

I've probably lost less than 2 hours of my life watching football but if I was some die hard fan, I'd be done altogether now.

Ditto with "NAASSSScar"- made this whole stink about the Stars and Bars. I thinking "really? NASCAR? The biggest white trash/redneck "sport" of them all and they are dumping the Stars and Bars? It would be like Natty Lite supporting Berkley or something!!!

Before the country becomes actually physically split up (think Yugoslavia) it first has to be divided in many different ways. That's happening now, the physical dividing may be some time off still.

[jimmycthemd]

I can understand PEACEFUL protests, but not against the flag/national anthem. I think the way the Cowboys did it was better, if not ideal. They knelt BEFORE the flag was brought out and the anthem was played and stood in respect of the flag/anthem. Not saying I agree with what they're protesting, just think the method was less disagreeable.

I don't watch sports much (don't have the time) but, like actors etc... I think the games should be about the games, not politics. That being said, if they want to express their personal opinions, do it outside the game on their own time.

[Bill Foster]

Back in my high school days, late 60's, early 70's, all of the "cool kids" were anti-American, anti-war. By coincidence I'm sure, they were the largest consumer of illegal drugs. We had one female history teacher who was a communist. She always had a group of impressionable young girls with her after class where she was teaching her favorite subject, Soviet style Communism. After a few years, she was fired when it came to light that she had lied on her loyalty form, but not before she had indoctrinated scores of young minds. TV news reporters were telling us that we were losing the war and that America and Nixon was the bad guys. Two generations later, the indoctrination seems to have worked.

[Patriotic Sheepdog]

They are calling it "freedom of speech". Problem with that is that is to be done on your own time and not while you are working at your profession, unless your company authorizes said speech. Now, another problem is these owners are between a rock and a hard spot...do I disipline my players and lose tons of money, or side with my players, or just remain quiet. Tough spot when you have millions/billions of dollars on the line I guess.

I have seen where some cities are toying with the idea of taking away public money from these franchises....which shouldnt have been given in the first place.

Now we have the arts/music industry and high schools doing the same. It seems to be spreading like wildfires.

I predict this isnt going to end well.

[rockriver]

pay attention to who... a few are just followers.
but we need to pay attention to even the followers.
someone shouts time to protest and the followers jump up.

yep. time to pay attention and note what is in folks heart and drug influenced brain

[Bill Foster]

Now that the billionaire team owners are joining in the protests and supporting their millionaire players "1st amendment rights" the subsidies are being discovered.

http://dailysignal.com/2017/09/26/heres-much-money-nfl-rakes-taxpayers/

Someone discovered the NFL rules concerning the players standing for the national anthem and facing the flag with helmets under their arms. here is why:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2017/09/24/draft-n2385792

Now that the defense dept. isn't paying the NFL to be patriotic, I suppose that the owners don't believe it's necessary. It's all about the money.

If it was about free speech or expression, I guess fans and the political pundants would be ok if players gave a stiff-arm salute after a touchdown?

[1Admin]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-28/first-sponsor-pulls-ad-dollars-nfl

We need to email/call and thank these folks and every other company that pulls their ad dollars out of the NFL.

The fact that TAX DOLLARS are going to a frickin football game is about the stupidest thing we are spending tax dollars on.