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  • Don't move to the country, their is no jobs.... :)

    How interesting you hear a couple of people on the net that love to build on people's fear of the unknown and of course the fear of being poor or having to make do with less.

    Some (o.k. one) advocates staying in the city during an emergency because their is no jobs or opportunities to make money if you live in the country or have a retreat in the woods.

    Of course common sense says this is utter Bravo Sierra. If their wasn't jobs in the country no one would LIVE in the country.

    I saw this article this morning and I thought to myself- now here is a guy that WANTED IT bad enough.

    Now he has the best of BOTH worlds- he has the safety, security and health benefits the country brings as well as the high income- $500K in sales for compost!!! Wow!



    The article IS an opsec failure though :(
    Survivalist retreat near Strafford yields big profits

    Retiree's doomsday garden becomes thriving business.

    Wes Johnson • News-Leader • October 3, 2010


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    Leonard Pense never planned to grow his garden into a business.





    Ten years ago, the former engineer and military consultant bought 21 secluded acres on top of a hill south of Strafford --"high ground with only one way in and out," he says.
    It was a place his extended family could retreat to if the country's economy collapsed, big trucks stopped delivering food to cities or the power grid went dark.
    "This was built solely as a survival garden for my family," said Pense, surveying rows of raised-bed growing areas filled with raspberries, potatoes, beans, okra, cauliflower, tomatoes and other edibles.
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    "Having worked as a consultant for the government, I came to the conclusion this country is not in the best of shape. When I started this, I did not intend for anyone to know where I was or what I was doing out here."
    His survivalist retreat, however, didn't remain a secret.
    Today, Pense's hilltop doomsday garden has become a thriving business known as Pensaroda Farm.
    He sells a special compost blend he created himself that almost eliminates weeds, and a fertilizer additive he designed that goes far beyond the basic nitrogen-phosphorous-potassium mix most gardeners are familiar with.
    Pense also teaches people how to grow bountiful gardens weedlessly and preserve what they grow so they have the knowledge to survive a societal calamity.
    Sales of his compost product and fertilizer blend topped $500,000 last year, he said, with shipments both locally and to gardeners across the country.
    He now has one employee to help manage the operation.
    His engineering background gave him the insight he needed to develop the growing medium -- a blend of cotton boll compost, peat moss and rice hulls.
    "It's so loose that you can go to your raised-bed potato patch and literally reach down and feel the potato and pull it out," Pense said, hand-harvesting a ripe spud as proof.
    "We don't have weeds because we don't plant the seeds -- we use no dirt or manure that bring weed seeds with it."
    Building raised vegetable beds proved to be a necessity he discovered after buying the hilltop hideaway.

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    "Just because you buy land here doesn't mean you get dirt with it," Pense said, wryly. "My first garden was an 8-by-8 sandbox. I raised a garden in it."



    Figuring there had to be a better way, Pense observed that raised beds about 4 feet wide would be just right for a gardener to reach across from either side to tend crops or harvest them.
    No more back-breaking labor when the crop is easily at arms reach.
    "You don't even need a hoe to garden this way," he said.
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    He designed wooden planting boards with dowels spaced appropriately for the type of crop being planted. Pressing the board into the compost mix leaves holes at a perfect depth for seeds to thrive.
    Pense said a lot of what he does in his garden is designed to take unnecessary work out of gardening.
    The concept worked well for him, but Pense had no plans to become a gardening guru.
    That changed after local horticulturalist Bill Eskes invited him to talk about his concepts during a local gardening radio talk show.
    "People started calling in and asking questions about what I was doing. It was like a ball-bat hit in the head for me. The Man upstairs gave me this knowledge, and I'm going to share it. It's a job I was given -- to teach people to feed themselves."
    Eskes remembered that radio show.
    "The radio station was only eight or 10 miles from his place," Eskes said. "But by the time he got home he had 60 messages on his house phone from people wanting to take his class."
    Eskes, sales representative for Ozark-based Grimes Horticulture, said he helped Pense work through some of the pest-control and soil nutrient problems he encountered.
    "The uniqueness of what he's doing now is showing people how to do it, and the components he has in his beds," Eskes said.
    "His process takes away most of the weeding that comes along with your typical garden. That's the most discouraging part of it for a lot of people."
    Pense charges $50 per person -- $25 for spouses or family members who come along to attend a class.
    Classes take most of the day and cover the basics of his gardening philosophy, how to construct a 4-foot by 16-foot raised bed garden, how to mix the special compost soil and tips for growing food with less effort.

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    He said it takes about $495 in compost and fertilizer to fill a 16-foot bed, and about $50 a year afterward to replenish the materials the plants use up.



    But he said a properly maintained raised-bed garden can produce between $1,000 and $1,500 worth of crops in a year.
    His classes have been so successful that Pense recently built a workshop cabin, complete with small classroom and full kitchen for teaching folks how to can their crops.
    Above the wood-burning fireplace hangs a plaque that expresses his philosophy: A Country Boy Can Survive.
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    Ron and Lou Thelen Kemp of Bolivar are sold on Pense's gardening concept.
    She attended one of Pense's classes and now has six raised beds of her own.
    "The major difference is the ease of it," Ron Kemp said. "She can get to the garden and doesn't have to wade through weeds at all."
    Her gardens have been so successful that she wanted to share them with her three grown sons.
    "She gave three 4-by-16 gardens to each of our boys as Christmas presents," Ron Kemp said.



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    two more pages after that, follow the link to read them.

    Never say never. Never believe a stereotype or someone's fear mongering. If YOU want something bad enough, do what our ancestors did- leave the cave, kill something and drag it home!

    You CAN have the best of both worlds. You just have to want it bad enough.
    Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"

    Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

    Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

  • #2
    Cool! It sounds a bit like hydroponics... Like some of the people interviewed, and the inventor, I too have found gardening much more frustrating and failure-prone than I ever thought before I did a garden... I'm going to check into this myself...

    Rmpl
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    • #3
      Sounds like he has all the kinks worked out. If he did webinars that would be awesome. Heck even he sold DVD's for roughly the same price as his class I would buy them.
      "It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar

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      • #4
        DVD's are a great idea.
        www.homesteadingandsurvival.com

        www.survivalreportpodcast.com

        "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed..."

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        • #5
          This is his web site. He sells a video and a digital book.

          My blog: http://greenerground.blogspot.com/

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          • #6
            Looks like he HAS dvd's but pricey at $40... Some of the pics look they have a lot of mulch on the top, and mulch can grow weeds and grass, so I'm not sure about the weed-free claims... So far I am now less sold on this concept than I was... Even some of the veggie pics didn't look amazing, just average looking veggies. Hmmmm

            As for making money in the country... BRILLIANT! At $40 a pop for DVD, plus you have to buy the stuff from him, he is rolling in the $$$$ now...

            Rmpl
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            • #7
              @Rmpl - the DVD and PDF are $19.95 just so you know http://gardeningrevolution.com/Products.html for the digital download version. I am considering it....still have to do some more research and ask some questions.
              "It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar

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              • #8
                Interesting article. I have found so far that although it is a bit tougher to make money out here in the country, my expenses basically boil down to land taxes, food, and a few odds and ends. I make about 1/4th here what I did in the city but I'm actually saving more. What good is making 40% more if your expenses are 50% higher? Its a net loss of ten percent.
                Last edited by KirkMcquest; 10-07-2010, 08:09 AM.

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                • #9
                  I sent an email to Len Pense asking him about his weedless garden when faced with weeds like dandelion puff balls or when birds drop them in your garden and here is his reply:

                  from: Leonard Pense <lenpense@gardeningrevolution.com>

                  dateThu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:23 PM
                  subjectweeds

                  eric, You will have a few come in the way you described, however it is very easy to tell that it is not something you planted. It is very easy to lift out, roots and all with 2 fingers. You won't spend 5 minutes a month to keep it weed free. Thanks, Len

                  So there you have it. Now you can decide.
                  "It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar

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                  • #10
                    If someone tries this out please post about how it works over a couple months time.
                    www.homesteadingandsurvival.com

                    www.survivalreportpodcast.com

                    "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed..."

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                    • #11
                      Well I jumped off the cliff and bought the digital version. He uses a specially blended compost instead of dirt, a special mixture of N-P-K with trace elements added (he used to run a fertilizer plant back in the day for golf courses etc. had a 4 state area he sold to). If I am able to do this over the summer I will blog my experience. He showed me how to properly prune a tomato plant to get the most out of it, that alone was worth the money IMO. He uses, from what I can tell, all organic pest control.
                      "It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar

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                      • #12
                        I have been an avid gardener for 6 years now. At first, I just threw some veggies in the ground and got what I could. Then I bought the book, Square Foot Gardening, by Mel Bartholomew. It has worked wonders for me. Another good book, is How to Grow More Vegetables by John Jeavons. It taught me a ton about veggin'. The most important thing about gardening is the soil, about 80%. The rest is sun and water, and organic pest killin. The raised bed technique does cut down on about 75% of the weeds. I have had great success every year except for this year were we didn't get rain for 7 weeks and it was so damn hot. At the house I live in now, my garden is in the Sun all damn day, just like my house. so its hard to keep certain things shaded.
                        But those 2 books are great tools to having a successful and producing garden. If anyone ever has a gardening question, just ask, I may know the answer. My other nickname is "Green Thumb"....ahahah
                        You know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this?

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                        • #13
                          Here is what he uses ( I am not divulging anything that cannot be found on one of his distributors sites):

                          Compost: Peat Moss, Rice Hulls (From Texas preferably), and Cotton Burr Compost.

                          Fertilizer: 4-3-3 (Nitrogen, Phosphorous, Potassium) plus 42 trace elements. Which elements are these I have no idea nor to what proportion. This is mainly what he spent his money developing.



                          Read the back of your seed packets and tell me if your soil meets the "Does best in ...."

                          Look at this pic closely and you will see how he lays his raised beds out from the ground up. http://www.gardeningrevolution.com/i...te_planter.JPG Pay particularly close attention to the black stuff and the layout of the block in comparison to the black stuff.

                          You can figure out how to set up some PVC pipes and what not to support your plants.

                          Insecticide - Diatomaceous Earth and Duster. Neem-Oil.

                          All of this information is available on either his site or his distributors. Rice Hulls has been found to be a replacement for vermiculite (which is a mineral).
                          "It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar

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                          • #14
                            come to Elko. country living and a dozen gold mines in the area. the mines start inexperienced miners (usually driving haul trucks) at $20/hr and that goes up quickly. they're hiring like crazy because gold is so high. it's been this way for the past several years. it's not unusual for kids fresh out of high school to make (with lots of overtime) over a hundred grand a year.
                            Last edited by Christian for Israel; 11-15-2010, 11:57 PM.
                            "Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets. I may get killed with my own gun, but he's gonna have to beat me to death with it, cause it's going to be empty." - Clint Smith

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                            • #15
                              It's not like living in the cities is much better for employment anyway; where in the country you may have five job openings and ten people looking for employment, in the city like mine was in San Diego, you'll have forty job openings of which you're qualified, and 3,000 people looking, many of which just so happen to be south of the border. And more often then not, people like myself, not so highly educated, are now competing for low level jobs with people who have multiple degrees.
                              "but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved... even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered: for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, and I will save thy children." - Matthew 24: 13; Isaiah 49: 6

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