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    have we got an accountant or a banker in the group who can help decipher this?

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    WARNING Bank Deposits Will Soon No Longer Be Considered Money But Paper Investments
    What does this mean?

    Kenneth Schortgen Jr explains:

    This weekend the G20 nations will convene in Brisbane, Australia to conclude a week of Asian festivities that began in Beijing for the developed countries and major economies. And on Sunday, the biggest deal of the week will be made as the G20 will formally announce new banking rules that are expected to send shock waves to anyone holding a checking, savings, or money market account in a financial institution.

    On Nov. 16, the G20 will implement a new policy that makes bank deposits on par with paper investments, subjecting account holders to declines that one might experience from holding a stock or other security when the next financial banking crisis occurs. Additionally, all member nations of the G20 will immediately submit and pass legislation that will fulfill this program, creating a new paradigm where banks no longer recognize your deposits as money, but as liabilities and securitized capital owned and controlled by the bank or institution.

    In essence, the Cyprus template of 2011 will be fully implemented in every major economy, and place bank depositors as the primary instrument of the next bailouts when the next crisis occurs...

    For most Americans with savings or checking accounts in federally insured banks, normal FDIC rules on deposit insurance are still in play, but anyone with over $250,000 in any one account, or held offshore, will have their money automatically subject to bankruptcy dispursements from the courts based on a much lower rank of priority, and a much lower percentage of return.

    This also includes business accounts, money market accounts, and any depository investments such as a certificate of deposit (CD)...

    after Sunday at the G20 meeting, the risks of holding any cash in a bank or financial institution will have to be weighed as heavily and with as much determination of risk as if you were holding a stock or municipal bond, which could decline in an instant should the financial environment bring a crisis even remotely similar to that of 2008.
    From a technical perspective, this is moving in line with Murray Rothbard's perspective on "bank deposit insurance," which he saw as a scam:

    [F]ractional reserve banking proved shaky, and so the New Deal, in 1933, added the lie of "bank deposit insurance," using the benign word "insurance" to mask an arrant hoax. When the savings and loan system went down the tubes in the late 1980s, the "deposit insurance" of the federal FSLIC [Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation] was unmasked as sheer fraud. The "insurance" was simply the smoke-and-mirrors term for the unbacked name of the federal government. The poor taxpayers finally bailed out the S&Ls, but now we are left with the formerly sainted FDIC [Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation], for commercial banks, which is now increasingly seen to be shaky, since the FDIC itself has less than one percent of the huge number of deposits it "insures."
    The very idea of "deposit insurance" is a swindle; how does one insure an institution (fractional reserve banking) that is inherently insolvent, and which will fall apart whenever the public finally understands the swindle? Suppose that, tomorrow, the American public suddenly became aware of the banking swindle, and went to the banks tomorrow morning, and, in unison, demanded cash. What would happen? The banks would be instantly insolvent, since they could only muster 10 percent of the cash they owe their befuddled customers. Neither would the enormous tax increase needed to bail everyone out be at all palatable. No: the only thing the Fed could do, and this would be in their power, would be to print enough money to pay off all the bank depositors. Unfortunately, in the present state of the banking system, the result would be an immediate plunge into the horrors of hyperinflation.

    Thus, the removal of protection for large depositors is eliminating the scam at this tier. It is, in other words, cutting down on moral hazard.

    However, I do not suspect that the world's governments have suddenly found Jesus/Rothbard. I suspect what is going on here is that the government is fully aware that this change will create a separation between bank deposits and government securities. Government securities, especially short-term paper, will become a safer investment than large banks deposits. This will drive funds away from banks and private sector lending and push funds into the direction of government sponsored debt (where there will be continued back up for such debt of the money printing presse
    Last edited by rockriver; 11-16-2014, 05:38 PM. Reason: adding article info

  • #2
    The confiscatory policies carried out in Cypres were just a test a dry run for the global policy of savings confiscation. The machine is starving and governments WILL take from your bank account to keep the scheme afloat if even for just one more day. We will see what happened in Greece happen elsewhere.

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    • #3
      Okay, this is concerning. Like rr, I need an accountant or banker here on the forum to help explain this.


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      • #4
        The money in your pocket is just paper and alloy metal. The money in the bank is just numbers on a ledger or computer program. There is nothing to back it, all that is needed to take from you is the delete key on the banksters computer. If it disappears for whatever reason, the federal government has it insured and will pay you off in more of the same paper. Dirt (land) is real, so is gold and silver as well as other preps.

        BTW- I am not an accountant or banker and I never even played one on TV. I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express before. In other words, this is just my opinion. (Opinions are like another thing that we all have and we tend to think the other guy's stinks.)
        Last edited by Gordon; 11-16-2014, 09:14 PM.

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        • #5
          On another forums some neophyte recently told me that having $10K cash was "extreme."

          Undoubtedly "that guy" that holds up the line at the convenience store while he swipes his DEBIT CARD for a $.94 cent soda....
          Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"

          Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

          Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 1Admin View Post
            On another forums some neophyte recently told me that having $10K cash was "extreme."

            Undoubtedly "that guy" that holds up the line at the convenience store while he swipes his DEBIT CARD for a $.94 cent soda....
            EXTREME.. LOL damn thats a badge of honor. I sure among preppers having more than a years supply of food is extreme. What they really mean is " I'm not dedicated enough to entertain that level of commitment"

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            • #7
              Just proves that physical assets and your mattress (or davenport) are better places for your $$.

              Not to say a person couldn't have multiple accounts in small community banks to be under the FDIC limit.

              If there is a will there is a way and you know the politicians will leave themselves an out.
              "It's a trap!!!!" -- Admiral Ackbar

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              • #8
                This is a big part of the reason that I've not had a bank account in over 20 years. No ROI to speak of, and the growing impingement by .gov has been the trend...so I got out while the getting was good ;)
                This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave. ~Elmer Davis

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                • #9
                  It's actually worse than that. Right now, a bank can borrow money using YOUR money, that you entrusted them to hold for you, as collateral. Let's say they did that to fund a construction project. Joe Blow wants to build a new strip mall. He goes to your bank, explains what he wants to do, and borrows the money. The bank goes to whoever they go to, borrows the money to loan to Joe, pledging YOUR money as collateral. Okay, well, there's a problem. Joe gets half-way through the project and changes his mind. He doesn't finish it for whatever reason. He defaults on his loan. The bank tells their banker, "Hey, Joe defaulted on his loan, so we're not going to be able to pay you back." Your bank's banker then attaches YOUR money. Poof. It's gone. See, it's not really YOUR money. It's an 'asset' owned by your bank. In the event that your bank declares bankruptcy, their creditor have first dibs on the banks assets, i.e. YOUR money. You may get some of it back, but it's going to take a while. Or, you may not get any of it back. Leaves you feeling all warm and fuzzy, don't it?

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                  • #10
                    Don't keep enough in either the checking or savings to cry over when they do take it. Less than $100 for each at any given moment. All my fiat paper is traded each paycheck for real goods. I'm just using both to appear to be a good little drone that needs help. All my big ticket items are paid for, and I don't keep credit cards. Just a simple debit card to pay the forced monthly health insurance payment and some simple online purchaces.
                    "It has been said that preparedness and being prepared promotes fear. This isn't true.......being UNPREPARED is what promotes fear"

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