EMP ?'s and where it is on your list

[RobertJ]

I am trying to build my preps off a list of most likely to occur first, and have those said preps overlap. I know most here do likewise, I think? Like on my list for central Florida...
1. Severe weather.
2. Hurricane.
3.Job loss/accident/ etc.
4.financial collapse
5.Pandemic. (flu, ebola, bio attack, etc. in this catagory...)
should 4&5 be reversed?

This is where my list gets iffy...
6.EMP or similar attack
7. ?
8. ?

Any way I have read PAW fiction on EMP, watched all the "in the know, experts" on it on you-tube... New's reports and EMP conferences. One in particular I watched this week touched on the subject of what would happen to our 75 operational nuclear reactors after an EMP attack. Seemed legit and I never gave it much thought before. If the spent rod cooling pools cant cool the rods any more=meltdown like Chernoble and Japan after the tsunami. How would one prep for that? This keeps getting deeper and deeper the more I try and prep the more I realize I gotta get out of Florida. Sigh

Any way input and comments needed on my list and the plausability of nuclear meltdown possibility needed.

Just wanted to add lights out/one cigg...err second after/ going home... never touched on this, guess its bad story line

[prc-104]

Emp is most severe

IMHO,
3 baddy's
Biological
Radiological
EMP (loss of most electrical generation/transmission infrastructure.)

I hate bugs but can live with it!
I hate Radiation, can't see or taste it!
Top of my most hazardous list is EMP.
Lose of national electrical grid would do the most damage.
At least that's what all the agencies see.

Minimize your absolute dependence upon electrical.
You can't eliminate it completely.
Plan on 95% running on DC because you can make AND STORE it.
Plan on inverters for your AC and have backups for it, it'll make more stuff work as needed.
BUT
Plan on a DC life. Acquire some solar, some wind and maybe a little thermal dc generators.
Have batteries, plan on getting batteries.
You can make a good living selling/trading electricity to the community.
Electricity and moonshine will support your family.

[protus]

6-zombies
7- russo/cuban paratroopers
8-emp

your list is fine..honestly you prep for those others your pretty well covered for emp.
granted like you pointed out..nuke facilities may be an issue....
i moved near 50 miles inland ..to avoid big waves lol

[Tackleberry]

The US power grid will definitely be hosed but my understanding is that nuclear reactors in the US are built to safely shutdown in the event of either a natural or man-caused EMP. Now, they may be blowing smoke up our arses much like when the CDC tells us there is nothing we can do to prevent people w/ Ebola from entering the country or when ICE tells us the southern border is secure. Who to believe, right?

I did find this link though.....

http://public-blog.nrc-gateway.gov/2011/10/31/keeping-u-s-reactors-safe-from-power-pulses/

[RobertJ]

Tackleberry go to 17:33 on the video where they talk about the "spent fuel rods"...its not the actual reactor but the spent fuel rods thats the concern.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7RCqdUdfOs

the video is a conglomeration of reports from big wigs. Its a decent watch.

Thanks everyone

[Mannlicher]

you just don't have the resources to prepare for every eventuality. There are too many possibles. Cover you and yours for natural disasters, and maybe economic collapse. Your preps would most likely do for most everything else.

[justanothergunnut]

emp goes off and the grid is damaged killing power to most of the US. You better have your stuff dialed because thats about as bad as it gets. 3 months worth of food and 1k of ammo aint gonna cut it. The only ones left standing are the lucky and the uber prepared. I think you can prepare towards this scenario though it would require dedication and sacrifice.

[protus]

See..thing is there's gonna be folks trucking on that never put away two days of food. That's how we humans roll. Its grand to think that only us multicam clad uber survivalist will be left standing...but I think there's plenty out there that would find a means to live through such events.
I am not saying don't prep hard just don't over look what's right in from of you.

[justanothergunnut]

Lucky... Some say they will take luck over skill any day. I'll take luck. But I want prepared also. :-)

[Patriotic Sheepdog]

emp goes off and the grid is damaged killing power to most of the US. You better have your stuff dialed because thats about as bad as it gets. 3 months worth of food and 1k of ammo aint gonna cut it. The only ones left standing are the lucky and the uber prepared. I think you can prepare towards this scenario though it would require dedication and sacrifice.

Or maybe the uber prepared that are lucky. Both together may be what one needs to survive that....or a tribe of like minded folks.


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[Tackleberry]

Lucky... Some say they will take luck over skill any day. I'll take luck. But I want prepared also. :-)

The Roman philosopher Seneca said, "luck is where preparation meets opportunity." Even the most prepped and dialed in group of people can find themselves in the wrong place at the right time and then it's game over regardless of preps.

Still, I'd rather be the unlucky guy that dies with lots of preps than a fool who died because of a lack of preps. I just hope the folks who find my stuff are deserving and decent people.

[justanothergunnut]

Well said tackleberry

[Lowdown3]

When we look at SPECIFIC threats like say EMP, our general preparations are going to be the same as say an economic collapse-

*Your still going to have to eat every day
*Your still going to need to have alternate fuel sources to cook the food
*You still need water sources, way to filter, store, pump, purify, etc.
* Your still going to need to be able to defend your family.
*You still need to be able to treat injuries.

So your general preps are going to be very similar over a broad category of "possible" scenarios- water, food, shelter, defense, etc.

Where we would look at specific preps would be the main difference.

EMP specific-

*Good fallout shelter. Except for the good ole lights out/ One Cigarette After type deal, you can pretty much guarantee that an EMP would preclude a nuclear attack either limited or full scale. People forget this and "EMP preps" are the closest their comfort level lets a lot of people get to "nuclear" preps.

*Survey meter and radiation monitoring gear. Again, your not going to know what's coming next, HAVE we been nuked? Etc. Radiation can't be be tasted, smelled or felt. YOU AIN'T GOING TO KNOW, period.

Everyone focuses on the obvious- radios in ammo cans or metal trash cans, etc. and that's important, but it's just the tip of it.

Walking a mile to the nearest water source and bucketing water all that way presents a security risk and if nothing else, a major waste of time and labor DAILY. A handpumped deep well is probably the best "EMP specific" prep anyone could make. Very few moving parts, not a damn thing electrical and of course water forms the basis of LIFE. We installed one a few years ago. It's a dedicated hand pump.

Next will be another solar submersible with a Simple Pump handpump cylinder in the casing 20 feet above the Sunpump submersible.

Also thinking at some point will add a Sun Pump submersible to a large ammo can and pack it away with a corresponding amount of necessary pump wire, a 24 volt panel and Sun pump controller. We lowered the first one in by hand and it didn't require any large trucks to pull. The extra wire is because I've seen standard AC submersibles get a surge and the pump AND the wires got fried.