Ebola in USA

[justanothergunnut]

rmpl.. as long as you bring 45k rounds of 5.56, 9mm,40,45acp,22lr, 2 years of LTS food and medical supplies for a group of 6 for 2 years you will be welcome at my location.. after the mandatory quarantine and indoctrination period of course....

[Patriotic Sheepdog]

Another "bonafide" I can I add to my "why you should let me in to your survivalist group" long list of positives... AB blood! LOL!

Rmpl

Only if you bring your plasma extractor. For whole blood, it's O- that's the universal donor.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_plasma

Although, AB+ is the universal recipient for PRBC. Maybe the two of us would make a good team as I'm O-. lol


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[Rmplstlskn]

Well it seems its the plasma from the blood they are using.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/blood-transfusions-ebola-survivor-dr-kent-brantly-patients/story?id=26182136

AB for plasma and 0 for blood. Good to know.

Another "bonafide" I can I add to my "why you should let me in to your survivalist group" long list of positives... AB blood! LOL!

Rmpl

[Jeweltgirl]

Well it seems its the plasma from the blood they are using.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/blood-transfusions-ebola-survivor-dr-kent-brantly-patients/story?id=26182136

AB for plasma and 0 for blood. Good to know.

[Patriotic Sheepdog]

.......Another thing I am unsure of is this bloodtransfusion they keep doing. Now, from what I understand is that the blood types must match to do this. Unless he has the one blood type that can be used by the others.

You are right, blood types need to match although O- blood is universal. He may be O- and that is why they can use it. They want to get any Ebola antibodies he has developed into the other patients.




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[justanothergunnut]

This could SOO get out of control. If you are still putting your faith in the CDC and our "advanced" western medical system you might want to re evaluate your decision making skills

[Tackleberry]

This is beginning to resemble a script from one of those low budget zombie slasher movies. The CDC is so politicized now it should be renamed to the Center for Dysfunction and Confusion.

[Tackleberry]

The second nurse was on an airplane from Cleveland the night before testing positive for Ebola. News reports saying there were 132 people on board.

[justanothergunnut]

Has the family been cleared? Incubation runs up to 21 days. Some show signs in 3 days others up to 21.

[Jeweltgirl]

How is it that 2 nurses now have ebola and yet the family that lived with him has no signs? They slept, ate used the same bathroom, dishes how did they walk away from this with a clean bill of health.

Another thing I am unsure of is this bloodtransfusion they keep doing. Now, from what I understand is that the blood types must match to do this. Unless he has the one blood type that can be used by the others.

[RobertJ]

Just heard on the Radio that a second healthcare worker has been confirmed with Ebola in Dallas. So thats patient zero, the nurse, and now "a second" healthcare worker. No name or position given yet.



Im no doctor, nor did I stay at a holiday in last night... but this is appearing to be airborn more and more to me, and the radio host commenting.

[Patriotic Sheepdog]

This may be a little more up to date.

http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/130883/2/WHO_HSE_PED_AIP_14.05.pdf

They call it a pocket guide....I chuckled when I saw the "pocket guide" had 113 pages.

I also just read an article that said patients lost 5-10 liters of fluid a day. Essentially they need one-on-one management just to maintain hydration and electrolyte balance. With that kind of loss, when a patient shows up 3-5 days into the sickness the electrolytes are way off. They also found that the body weights of the patients increased by 15 to 20 kg, yet they were hypovolemic because of third-spacing and had vascular damage and low albumin. With that kind of fluid shifting the patients had hypokalemia, hypocalcemia, hyponatremia, and nutritional deficiency.

I found this interesting, at Emory viral RNA was detected on skin and in blood, urine, semen, vomit, stool, and endotracheal suctioning. However, it was not in dialysate, on environmental surfaces in the bathroom, or on high-touch areas on the day of patient discharge.

I cannot post the link to the article as it's on a site I need to log into. These are some highlights.


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[justanothergunnut]

Hey folks I found a link to a CDC document that outlines how to handle and work around Ebola patients. Be warned though this document is from 1998 and may not reflect the reality that this strain is much different than the strain they battled in 1995. That being said though there is still tons of good information about standards and isolation and is a great starting point for dealing with ANY infectious disease. Again keep in mind this manual is written with the assumption that Ebola is not airborne or even aerosolized so adapt your precautions accordingly.. I know it's 200 pages long and it can be somewhat difficult to get through but seriously its only 200 pages and there is some very good tidbits of info in it.
The downloadable PDF is at the bottom of the page

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/abroad/vhf-manual.html

[Rmplstlskn]

Rmpl- cleaning/reorganizing a storage container I found a bunch of filters in various states and accessories for the M10M. Not sure if you still had any of those but it you want these shoot me an email.

Thanks for remembering... I have a whole sealed box of M13A2 filters for the M17-series and Czech M10M masks, so I am good. Those masks are backup to the backup, or for barter or loan. My primary are Micronel/3M M95 and Canadian C4 as backup, with quite a few P100 filters for them. The P100's are now expired in 2012, so ask me if I care... LOL! I trust them...

Maybe another has use of those filters?

Rmpl

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Rmpl- cleaning/reorganizing a storage container I found a bunch of filters in various states and accessories for the M10M. Not sure if you still had any of those but it you want these shoot me an email.