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    Tourist Survival
    I enjoy taking a vacation and getting away every once in a while. Like everyone else it has to be planned for certain times of the year it’s just that our reasons are different than many. It might be a short vacation down the road to the next town to a worldwide trek it doesn’t matter the goals are the same and that is to enjoy, relax, unwind and stay safe. That is tough when you half paranoid and into survival like me. Things happen though and I watched 2 disasters unfold on other vacationers and local populations as I was on vacation



    We must remember that our rights are not the same across borders or sometimes even in the next sate


    Looting


    So when is it looting and when is it survival?
    A moral dilemma for many to even take a loaf of bread but not so much for many as TVs and other items of “luxury” fall into hands of the greedy!
    Do you wait until it becomes a matter of survival or do you act first so it doesn’t reach critical?
    I’d like to hear some viewpoints on this and please keep it civil as viewpoints can really differ strongly on this subject and many are based on life experience. An example is this guy

    Many are appalled by his taking things in destroyed buildings but I was there and did not consider them to be bad guys just people trying to survive by taking things from abandoned places rather than stealing from people as many were.

    So with space at a premium while vacationing what do you take?
    I take food, not huge amounts but stuff that doesn’t draw attention.

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    I take my water filter no matter where I’m going, no matter period!
    You cannot beat this model for space and capabilities IMO

    I carry my camelbak (empty when flying) and the platypus type collapsible water bottles to include the cheapo dollar store ones because if I need space and have to dump them it doesn’t hurt and sometimes they can be left as a “tip” to someone or traded as many parts of this world don’t have these type of resources.
    Things TSA will allow on carry on are the fire steels and a small container of tender, P38 can opener, cordage on a keychain, emergency dental kit, non areosol bug spray, medical kit http://www.jrhenterprises.com/Tactic...-Tactrauma.htm however I did remove the tweezers and scissors, just to avoid the possible hassle, and placed them in my checked bags, sam splint, canteen cup, plastic flatware, waterproof pelican box with 550 cord, duct tape, flashlight, headlamp, hand warmers, fishing kit tin, 550 cord bracelet, second fire starter in my case a little sparkie in case I’m injured and only have one good arm, charcloth in the wallet, bandanna, carabineers, plastic raingear, gortex, change of wool socks, small container of Gold Bond powder, binoculars and many times night vision (NOT a military style that WILL get you into trouble in foreign countries) and all of this will fit compactly into your carry on and in your pockets and of possible I make it my tourist type backpack rather than the tacticool ones so again not to draw unwanted attention and the above items will go about anywhere and not violate other countries laws. This stuff shouldn’t raise to many alarms or eyebrows and it all can make a difference is your survivability in the bad stuff.
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    https://www.survivalandpreparednessf...hlight=fishing .

    Checked baggage can have the pocket tools, knives, firearms etc. depending on where you are going or you can mail it ahead sometimes.

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    Last edited by Matt In Oklahoma; 09-20-2013, 10:28 AM.
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    When you are out doing touristy things and activities you should attend the safety briefs and wear the equipment provided for your safety even if it isn
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    • #3
      The wildlife
      The wildlife is always a danger weather it’s a small spider or a grizzly bear you should pay attention to what the dangers are and have a plan.
      This was my bear plan on a recent trip to Alaska while on the trail with no weapon. I can’t outrun or outfight the bear but I can this guy.

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      P.S. Don’t be this guy

      And on that subject exercise is critical in maintaining while on vacation.
      You might not have a luxury gym at the uber resort

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      Workout bands are super light, easy to use even in limited space areas such as ships and hotel rooms. The tubing can be used for other things such as medical, weapons or water collection too.

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      • #4
        Resourcing
        Since you are limited on what you can bring or even carry physically resourcing becomes more critical than ever


        On a recent trip to Alaska I picked the brain of a knowledgeable EXE121 who assisted me greatly on what to look for. There are some very smart people here on this site. I learned that I knew many of the plants already like yellow dock, dandelion, berries, yarrow etc.

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        Listen to what the locals have to say. Most of the bumbleheaded tourists are spending most of their time talking and bragging and not listening, not truly respectfully listening to what they are saying. They know what
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        • #5
          Why did I just know you were going to try to start a fire?

          Some very good points made
          Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Grand58742 View Post
            Why did I just know you were going to try to start a fire?
            You know i got to KNOW! LOL
            I bought Wiseowl a t-shirt while i was there too knowing his likes and all

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Matt In Oklahoma View Post
              You know i got to KNOW! LOL
              I bought Wiseowl a t-shirt while i was there too knowing his likes and all

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              That is freakin awesome right there!!!
              You know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Matt In Oklahoma View Post
                You know i got to KNOW! LOL
                You know, most people go on vacation to relax. You're one of the first ones I know of that goes on vacation to burn things :cool:
                Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.

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                • #9
                  Great post Matt. I've been looking and watching for smaller, lighter items to take when I'm traveling. I just came across this Sawyer water filter. I feel it's better than the straw filter, as if you and your family cannot get out of somewhere for a while, it will last you.



                  I figure it will be lighter and smaller than my MSR filter I use when hiking.

                  Disclaimer for the IRS, I just found that item on Amazon and do not get any money if you click or order.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Grand58742 View Post
                    You know, most people go on vacation to relax. You're one of the first ones I know of that goes on vacation to burn things :cool:
                    Yep I was the only one who showed up to the repelling and zip lining course with a pack. They stowed it for me because the had bears that would come in to the camp and raid often. Apparently that drew attention to me, then the guides were talking about food sources for the bears and I asked which ones were edible for us and that drew attention then while I was waiting on them to catch up on the course I was looking at the plant life. Some texass punk stated "did you find a shelter over there cause your obviously one of them" referring to preparedness. I stated back "nope I am observing the natural beauty that God made and I may never get to see again and learning the area I'm in as I have in all my travels especially the ones I did when in the Army after all isn't that why we travel because we have zip lines at home". It drew smiles and shut him up
                    I also decided to eat him first

                    Originally posted by Patriotic Sheepdog View Post
                    Great post Matt. I've been looking and watching for smaller, lighter items to take when I'm traveling. I just came across this Sawyer water filter. I feel it's better than the straw filter, as if you and your family cannot get out of somewhere for a while, it will last you.



                    I figure it will be lighter and smaller than my MSR filter I use when hiking.
                    That is very interesting especially as a space saver
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                    • #11
                      Matt
                      Great thread, and involves something that happened this past weekend. I took my staycation this past weekend and went on a fishing charter out of St. Augustine Fl..
                      15 passengers/charters and 5 crew. I was made fun of by the 3 people I went with (non-preppers). It started with the clothing I had on. It was Columbia sport "zip off" cargo shorts/pants, I wore in pant configuration. My shirt was a Columbia sport PFG long sleeve shirt with SPF protection. In my cargo pockets and belt I carried... small bottle Dramamine (forgot to take pill LOL) small bottle of Tylenol, cash/ID on a survival money clip, boo-boo kit in a pelican 1010 box, gut rag, Martac AAA led light, waterproof pen n pad, Frog Toggs cool towel I kept in cooler for recharging,
                      Leatherman wave multi tool,SPF50 waterproof sport sunscreen, small tube of zinc, fillet knife and a microtec UDT, glock 19 concealed in griffon industries holster with one spare mag.(no one knew about that)and a Vapur roll up water bottle clipped to belt loop which I replenished from cooler regularly. On my feet I wore Columbia pangora water shoes. a boonie hat and nemesis safety/sun glasses, Casio with compass/weather features watch rounded off my wardrobe.
                      Most everone else on the boat wore t-shirts mostly college/sport team and a few wore wife beaters with fishing logos. My friends included, had the sports teams shirts on with vinyl printing, they took them off half way through the day to cool down. The majority of the people on the boat were either drinking alcohol or sodas... not the best way to hydrate. One drunk saw in my cooler and kept asking to bum gatoraid from me, I gave him two then blew him off the rest of the time He started pissing other people off too bumming water and soft drinks while he steadily drank his Bud. I digress... I also had a camelback tri-zip with me that contained a dry bag full of food. 2 zip lock bags of Quaker granola bars, jar of peanuts, some tuna packs, saltines and change of shirt. I kept the bladder empty but inflated to help with flotation. if something happened. I also had a small LED lantern with strobe feature as well as Surfire G2 and another multitool. On the outside of bag I had a length of 550 cord attached to carabiners on both ends one to bag and one to me if something were to happen.
                      The boat was the "SeaLove III". I carried a mid sized cooler packed with water and gatoraid. I had also frozen a 2ltr bottle of water as well as packed with Ice. The safety brief was that literally... BRIEF, "life vests are there (pointed) and life rings and raft automatically release if we go down". That was the extent of it. Afterwards I walked over to the closet with the life vests (molded a bit) took one out and pre fitted it to me. Boy did I get a lot of looks and wispered comments on that one then secured it to my cooler and bag. The crew even looked at me funny I just said "beats the rush" no one got it sadly. The excursion was for 8 hours total with a hour and a half out and same back (25 miles give or take out)

                      At our second fishing spot, the captain played a radio on a loud speaker system for us throughout the cruse the pa/radio gave out and lots of activity from the crew... they opened the hatch to the diesels (bench seats) and started fiddleing around... my oh crap meter pegged... they tried to turn the diesels over several times with no luck... only a few people were like me watching the happenings everyone else was just fishing away with no clue or concern. I looked in my buddies coolers and they only had a few drinks left each. I inventoried my stuff and was GTG but started thinking its gonna get ugly waiting on a sea tow while the sea sick and drunks panderd those of us with cold drinks... note to self this may not have been a good idea..
                      They finally turned the diesels over after dickering around for about 10 min or so, but I did notice the radio never returned and the diesels never shut off the remainder of the cruse. It was fun rubbing my friends sunburned agony in their faces as I drove them home. I was even aske by John where I got my "Gucci" fishing outfit from... Two blocks from your house john at their outlet...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RobertJ View Post
                        Matt
                        Great thread, and involves something that happened this past weekend. I took my staycation this past weekend and went on a fishing charter out of St. Augustine Fl..
                        15 passengers/charters and 5 crew. I was made fun of by the 3 people I went with (non-preppers). It started with the clothing I had on. It was Columbia sport "zip off" cargo shorts/pants, I wore in pant configuration. My shirt was a Columbia sport PFG long sleeve shirt with SPF protection. In my cargo pockets and belt I carried... small bottle Dramamine (forgot to take pill LOL) small bottle of Tylenol, cash/ID on a survival money clip, boo-boo kit in a pelican 1010 box, gut rag, Martac AAA led light, waterproof pen n pad, Frog Toggs cool towel I kept in cooler for recharging,
                        Leatherman wave multi tool,SPF50 waterproof sport sunscreen, small tube of zinc, fillet knife and a microtec UDT, glock 19 concealed in griffon industries holster with one spare mag.(no one knew about that)and a Vapur roll up water bottle clipped to belt loop which I replenished from cooler regularly. On my feet I wore Columbia pangora water shoes. a boonie hat and nemesis safety/sun glasses, Casio with compass/weather features watch rounded off my wardrobe.
                        Most everone else on the boat wore t-shirts mostly college/sport team and a few wore wife beaters with fishing logos. My friends included, had the sports teams shirts on with vinyl printing, they took them off half way through the day to cool down. The majority of the people on the boat were either drinking alcohol or sodas... not the best way to hydrate. One drunk saw in my cooler and kept asking to bum gatoraid from me, I gave him two then blew him off the rest of the time He started pissing other people off too bumming water and soft drinks while he steadily drank his Bud. I digress... I also had a camelback tri-zip with me that contained a dry bag full of food. 2 zip lock bags of Quaker granola bars, jar of peanuts, some tuna packs, saltines and change of shirt. I kept the bladder empty but inflated to help with flotation. if something happened. I also had a small LED lantern with strobe feature as well as Surfire G2 and another multitool. On the outside of bag I had a length of 550 cord attached to carabiners on both ends one to bag and one to me if something were to happen.
                        The boat was the "SeaLove III". I carried a mid sized cooler packed with water and gatoraid. I had also frozen a 2ltr bottle of water as well as packed with Ice. The safety brief was that literally... BRIEF, "life vests are there (pointed) and life rings and raft automatically release if we go down". That was the extent of it. Afterwards I walked over to the closet with the life vests (molded a bit) took one out and pre fitted it to me. Boy did I get a lot of looks and wispered comments on that one then secured it to my cooler and bag. The crew even looked at me funny I just said "beats the rush" no one got it sadly. The excursion was for 8 hours total with a hour and a half out and same back (25 miles give or take out)

                        At our second fishing spot, the captain played a radio on a loud speaker system for us throughout the cruse the pa/radio gave out and lots of activity from the crew... they opened the hatch to the diesels (bench seats) and started fiddleing around... my oh crap meter pegged... they tried to turn the diesels over several times with no luck... only a few people were like me watching the happenings everyone else was just fishing away with no clue or concern. I looked in my buddies coolers and they only had a few drinks left each. I inventoried my stuff and was GTG but started thinking its gonna get ugly waiting on a sea tow while the sea sick and drunks panderd those of us with cold drinks... note to self this may not have been a good idea..
                        They finally turned the diesels over after dickering around for about 10 min or so, but I did notice the radio never returned and the diesels never shut off the remainder of the cruse. It was fun rubbing my friends sunburned agony in their faces as I drove them home. I was even aske by John where I got my "Gucci" fishing outfit from... Two blocks from your house john at their outlet...
                        That is awesome! +100
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                          Originally posted by WiseOwl View Post
                          That is freakin awesome right there!!!

                          Matts man cave clock
                          You know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by WiseOwl View Post
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                            Matts man cave clock
                            bhahahaha touche

                            found where you left your backpack there Dora

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