How is this different from our government?

[Edgemont]

Any takers? Not trying to start a riot or anything

[Edgemont]

That's what I thought.

[Bearman202]

You didn't get a reply because you're preaching to the choir. The video didn't tell us anything we didn't already know.

[WILL]

Everyone wants to blame the government. I blame the American people. We could fix our budget problems right now. All the people would have to do is demand an end to social security, medicade, medicare, our standing army and a host of other government programs. Of course the people wouldn't have that, so who's to blame?

[Edgemont]

Bearman, I wish you were correct about everybody being on the same choir or that I was preaching to the choir. But unfortunately I still see a significant majority of people believing that their "conservative" mitt is going to save america. America is dead. It has been for a long time. Plus, government doesn't work. And oh my–dare I say it– Government will never fix our problems! I wish someone could give me an example of a nation that has been free in the past for any prolonged period of time. Since the despicable Abe Lincoln or perhaps even before, america hasn't been free. No person can be called free when another has involuntary authority over that person. And please don’t anyone tell me that my voting or having the "right" to vote is my permission for some other person’s authority over me.
I believe the root of all of the problems in the world stem from an authority issue. Who's authority is the authority over each individual's own life? I no longer say the pledge of allegiance. I no longer yield and submit to the total authority of a big gang of Godless thieves called government. I will not bow my knee to the "state" and commit an egregious sin against Almighty God by violating the first three commandments! (Deut 5; Matt 5:33-37; James 5:12) How can I? They are murderers, robbing and looting thieves, liars, and occult worshipers. It would be in violation of my Godly duty as a believer in Yeshua to keep the commandments.
I'm so sick of hearing that I'm voting for Obama by refusing to vote for "the lesser of two evils." If that's the best argument that someone has for me, than it is pointless to continue the conversation due to the completely obvious illogicality of that individual's brian. Evil is still evil. Does voting for the “lesser evil” somehow makes me less of a sinner?

And WILL, we as the "citizens" could step up and demand they change things and get rid of all of that stuff, but it would still be a contradiction. The USofA Government is a contradiction. Government is supposedly here to protect our "rights" (or in other words: Our own authority over our own life) but in order to protect those individual rights, it needs to forcibly take our monies so that it can protect our "rights"? Do I need to keep going to show the constant inconsistencies of government?
And for those that would say: Yeah, but we just need good government and then there wouldn't be individual's rights being violated. Please read Romans 3:10-12 and then read Samuel 8:10-18 and then explain to me how this can be so?

Everyone is evil. Myself included. Therefore, how can we expect evil men to rule us and protect our "rights"? We cannot. How can you expect an evil ruler or "law enforcement officer" to protect you from an evil robber or murderer? The real solution to our government problems is to demolish it completely. Totally and completely get rid of all government. How about we live in a society that is voluntary? How about each person taking responsibility for themselves?

Thus we prepare. Each I think for his or her own different concerns about the way things are. That’s fine because that’s what individuals should do… Approach life in their own way.

But as for me, I prepare for the eventuality of American society smacking into the axiom.

[WILL]

I believe government is necessary, we just have to make a distinction between good and bad government. I believe there are things people can accomplish when working together as a collective that no individual or group of individuals could. Things like NASA, most of the country’s infrastructure, national defense, the criminal & civil justice systems, the CDC, ect.

[Edgemont]

You believe government is necessary. I believe it is not. You want good people telling you what you can and cannot do? I don't think anybody should have authority over me unless I submit my authority to them.
So you want good "government" (government=force). I don't want any government telling me what I can do.

Neither of us have what we want. But if you had good government and I didn't want any government, would it be "good" to force your "good" government on me?
Whereas, If I had no government over me, I could care less if you went off and made your own government to rule you, as long as it didn't tell me what to do.
See the difference?
GOVERNMENT = FORCE

"But Edgemont, we have to have government!!! What about the bad people possibly hurting me?! What about NASA, Infrastructure, national defense, ect…
Couldn't those things be done by willing individuals grouping together for a purpose??? i.e. VOLUNTARY

And so we're left prepping for future calamities that could/are going to be brought on by our government.

[tired-medic]

Unfortunately, the more elections I see the less difference I see. Candidates seem less passionate about issues and beliefs.

[WILL]

You believe government is necessary. I believe it is not. You want good people telling you what you can and cannot do? I don't think anybody should have authority over me unless I submit my authority to them.
So you want good "government" (government=force). I don't want any government telling me what I can do.
GOVERNMENT = FORCE
"But Edgemont, we have to have government!!! What about the bad people possibly hurting me?! What about NASA, Infrastructure, national defense, ect…
Couldn't those things be done by willing individuals grouping together for a purpose??? i.e. VOLUNTARY

There are two problems with your idea. First, I disagree that matters such as national security can be handled by volunteers or private interests. In this day of nuclear powers and modern militaries, we would surely lack necessary performance. The same is true of the other government agencies I listed. Let’s use a simple example that happens all the time to demonstrate.

Two criminals break into your car and steal from you at 3AM. You awake as they flee. The police immediately respond, box and track with a K-9, apprehending one of them. They also dust for prints, later identifying, locating and arresting the second suspect. Both suspects go to trial and are found guilty. Jail ensues. What voluntary or private enterprise is going to fill that role? Who gives them the authority?

Second is your idea that no one should have power over you. That would only be true if you were God. Everyone else must subscribe to some form of law/rule. Laws and rules are necessary to ensure fairness, justice, equil rights, ect. Hence, someone must enforce those laws/rules. Therefore, someone will always have authority.

[JUSTIFIED]

[QUOTE=WILL;47766]There are two problems with your idea. First, I disagree that matters such as national security can be handled by volunteers or private interests. In this day of nuclear powers and modern militaries, we would surely lack necessary performance. The same is true of the other government agencies I listed. Let