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[Bob92]

Just saw this stat around a 130 million people in the U.S. during the depression era, between 5 to 10 million disappeared. What do we have now around 340 million that means 15 to 30 million if something happens now.

[Matt In Oklahoma]

That figure actually seems low to me Bob92. In the depression folks were a little more self reliant than now and even used to physical work in weather. Even just the knowledge of how to grow things is lost on most and the populations in major cities is much denser per capita than back then as well which means a larger portion is reliant on others for water, food, protection and shelter etc.
An example of my thinking is this. Lets say 1million of the 7 in NYC wised up after an event and "ran for the hills" out of the falling apart and unable to support the masses city and were on foot heading north to the wilds. (based on my friends that live there)Most of them are used to walking no more than a 6-7 block area to get everything they need to live so how far out of the big city are they gonna make it with the items they carry before having to stop? What if a northern blows in about that time? Can that million make shelter and fire and find food? So thats an easy million die off right there and then what of the remaining 6? Now think of Atlanta in the oppresive heat with all those in shape upstanding .gov beneficaries working their way into the swamps and hills. How many would be smart enough to move by night and avoid the heat and be willingor even know how to eat the critters of quisine of their forefathers?
I can go on but I think you get the picture and even we can become victims ourselves from exertion, age and quick changes. No, I think the #s will be much higher as i also believe people to be more aggressive and willing to take life than in the 30s too and with the high numbers of weapons here well ........

[Grand58742]

I'm of the same mind as Matt. The numbers today would be hard to predict, but I feel were on the low side. Like Matt said, folks back then knew where to find food, forage, live off the land if needs be. For the Depression era, they were only a generation or two removed from the settlers heading out west, the folks that had to survive off the land and brave hostiles to live. And those lessons were probably still in their minds.

Today? The percentages will be probably far, far higher.

[Bob92]

I agree with both of you. Was just comparing the numbers. I beleive th number is going to be way higher.

[huckridge]

I agree with all that's been said so far, but how about all those dependant on pharmaceuticals just to stay alive. I think that number of folks has also grown exponentially the way some doctors write prescriptions for everything. The lack of physical conditioning and inability to cope has become pandemic in our culture. I think the numbers will be much higher.

[Lowdown3]

I agree with all that's been said so far, but how about all those dependant on pharmaceuticals just to stay alive. I think that number of folks has also grown exponentially the way some doctors write prescriptions for everything. The lack of physical conditioning and inability to cope has become pandemic in our culture. I think the numbers will be much higher.

Good point. I've said this on other forums and got bashed from the "need prozac to live" crowd.

I shudder to think what will happen with these folks.

Hell a lot of kids are zombies NOW with all the meds they push on them. Like the wife said one time "when do they get off of them? Or do they grow up and use them as adults also?"

Never ending customers for the drug dealers... OOPS I meant pharmaceutical companies.

[Irish-Tech]

the Rx users are one my biggest fears. $14 billion in sales for anti psychosis sales in 2008. i doubt we will ever know where most of these are sold but i would bet money most are in major cities. a slow spiral will be hard to see because we just get use to it. it would be easier if there was a sudden drop then we would know to get out of dodge.

[Greg B.]

My worry about the cities (I'm an hour north of a million screaming muslims and a boat load of well armed street gangs) is that after the shelves are empty and they've burned the town down, they are going to start moving out, through the suburbs, into the countryside. They're going to be looking for food, drugs, booze and women. I'm highly skeptical that a lone family will be able to defend against such threats. BTW; We just recieved a news letter, from our township (It's that far down the food chain) begging for volunteers and warning that in a major emergency, we might be on our own for a protracted period before proffessional help would arrive.

[Grantmeliberty]

One of the many very destructive effects of abandoning our Biblical roots is that we have let the atheistic shrinks deal with spiritual issues. Jesus dealt with many cases of possession and restored many to wholeness. We let a shrink put a pharma band aid on a spiritual problem and consider that "all we can do." Sorry, but there is more that can be done, but it requires real spiritual warfare on the part of believers, not the feel good, believe and prosper with an escape the fires of hell by saying "I'm saved" imitation. Believers have abandoned the battle and the enemy takes down more and more victims. Why don't more believers drive out demons today? Have we compromised our faith so far that we believe the materialist line and give up?
I think that it is of great importance to remember that the young man, so possessed that he broke the chains which bound him, was freed of a legion of demons which then possessed the swine and ran them headlong into the sea. Then this man, who was totally transformed and wished to follow Jesus immediately, was told by Jesus to instead go into the village and tell what had happened to him. When Jesus returned, the whole village was ready to follow Him. This would, as I understand it, make that young man the most effective early evangelist.

[1Admin]

Good post Grant.

However-

If you mean the incident in Matthew 8:28-34 the village told him to leave, definitely was not ready to follow Him at that point.

Probably astonished at what happened to the possessed man, but more concerned with the loss of the herd of swine. This shows their previous CHOICES against God's law and compromises their fathers made- having pigs in the first place (forbidden to Jews).

Similar to those of us that will save they trust Him with their lives, but won't trust Him with our finances.