DOOMSDAY BUNKERS!!!!

[antishot]

So now Discovery channel has a DOOMSDAY(echo echo echo) show that we can shake our heads at. Now they are building this bunker for 50K and its only the size of my living room. I guess I am in the wrong business.

[610Alpha]

yep...better get on the bandwagon...lol

[Embrachu]

Personally, I thought the show was ridiculous. If I had 50k to spend on a bunker you can bet I'd have had more input on it's design. The video periscope sticks out like a sore thumb (and it should have had a sharper angle than the elbow they used), the flame rail certainly needs tweaking on shut-off since the flames seemed to sputter and not extinguish immediately, and the spike cross should have been recessed into the ceiling so someone wouldn't accidentally run into it and it should have had two arms (not a single arm, with the cross shape) and had more snap to it (the dummy it "skewered" was hardly touched, and appeared to have been pressed onto the spikes in an edit). Regarding the "pod", it was certainly cramped, and a major flaw was that the designer/owner who was inside it had complained about the smoke entering the pod and how a seal would have to be installed around the door to prevent such things. I guess he doesn't realize that if smoke gets in that means there is air flow, and if he now seals the door then there will be no airflow. So anyone inside will run out of air relatively quick, unless there is a venting system of some sort installed (or they, too, wear an air tank). I just believe this is a poor quality show, and the fabricators have no concept of real-world defense. It's just a mediocre metal shop trying to take advantage of the 2012 hype.

[hellhound]

I seem to remember that the pyramid pod they were building was supposed to be 1/4 size of the final product, but I might have heard it wrong. I know the place that was building bunkers on doomsday preppers is in the mtns near me and supposedly hiring because of some big orders. If the pay I heard they are offering is true I may have to run up and do a weld test for them and see about getting on.

Overall I wan't really that impressed with the deep earth company on the show. I went to their website and it seems like they have dropped soem pretty good money on 2 large shop facilities. I didn't take the time to see what other products they were offering. The shelter they put in looked well built, but the spikes and torch thing seemed like cheap add ons. Maybe I should start building onsite shelters instead of welding pipe

[610Alpha]

What i found interesting is the family that bought the fiberglass bunker went back to him after it flooded due to "the contractor put it in a bad location" to get a metal one...i hope they got trade in value for the flooded fiberglass bunker...

i heard that too about the pyramid test that it was 1/4 the size of the for sale module.


I wouldn't trust my family in a Deep Earth Bunker...they don't do anything to hide the vent tubes or camouflage the entrance or anything...uhm no thanks...if I am going to pay that kind of money to a company they better have those things included. Pay you 50K and you don't have my entrance concealed nor the vent pipes...you're FIRED! Next company please.

[Grand58742]

Already a thread started on the TV show

https://www.survivalandpreparednessforum.com/showthread.php?3960-Doomsday-Shelter

[blackhawk]

A STORAGE CONTAINER LIKE THE ONES ON SHIPPING BOATS AND CONCRETE MANHOLE GOING TO THE ENTRACE IS WAY BELOW THE 50K.

[antishot]

yep...better get on the bandwagon...lol

I would jump right on but I need to finish this 10ton overhead crane first

[kappydell]

i only wish i had the money this guy spent. i cant fault his love for his family, but really....if i was his wife i would be p****d. how extravagant. Seems he could have had reinforced concrete poured much cheaper....not to mention the flooded shelter. Good grief, all he offered them was a more expensive one to purchase, blaming the contractor? Not offering to fix the problem on site? Sounds money hungry to me, and I don't care who one chooses to blame, if the shelter fails and I die, Im going to come back as a very angry hai'nt.....

[Rmplstlskn]

This show is like watching Monster House... All fluff and stupidity...

That nail cross was the dumbest thing ever... And the idiot BOUGHT it. LOL!

That guy on the other Prepper show built much better shelters...

[Matt In Oklahoma]

That nail cross was the dumbest thing ever... And the idiot BOUGHT it. LOL!

It was to light to penetrate. I would have welded a 45lb weight plate to it and placed it behind a thin piece of plastic material for concealment. Those "flytraps" devices work best with the element of suprise.

[hellhound]

The fiberglass shelter was strictly a storm shelter, and as such was required to have a certain amount of venting on it. If you looked at it when they showed it, the vent was on the side and had what basically amounted to a gutter surrounding it. As close as it was to the ground surface any decent rain was going to wash over the lip, fill the gutter area and then flow into the shelter. In the end it was just a crap design.

I agree with wanting to hide the entrance and existence of your shelter, but for a basic one size fits all, we are going to drive down your street and advertise to everyone what you bought shelter, you can only do so much. A custom built in place shelter that was tailored to the site and individual would be able to be more secure, hidden and specialized to your desires.

[Lowdown3]

I haven't seen this show yet.

But I "heard" from a friend of a friend of a friend ;) that water penetration into shelters is a MAJOR problem. If your not PLANNING for that- even if your in the high desert- your planning to fail.

The last thing you want is water trapped underground in a dark environment with humidity.

[BillM]

During the first push into Germany during WWII, my father was a "Combat Engineer" They were dropped off in the middle of the night on a ridge to relieve a rifle squad who had been in close combat with the German Army for five days. The Germans had a concrete bunker surrounded with pill boxes at the bottom of the ridge. Dad called in artillary fire on the bunker and they had a sixty cal machine gun. The top was exposed and was rounded five foot thick reinforced concrete. Every thing bounced off. The germans held out for ten days but eventually lost so many men while changing the guards in the pill boxex that they wound up having to surrender to my dads far numericlary inferior force.

The bunker,(intended to be a safe haven), had become a trap.

It is no good to have a bunker unless you control all the surrounding territory.

Once the enemy is at the door, your screwed!

[Lowdown3]

OK, evidently this crap is big on TV now??

$450K for a 1,100 sq. foot shelter and your stocking short term foods from walmart and have water jugs two shelves above them.

Money, yes, Experience, No