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    You can build all the survival shelters you want but unless you can prevent the satellites from finding your location you have lost the battle I do mean satellites other than those from the U.S.A.

    The point I am trying to get at is that the same technology that is used to identify weed plantations is also used to determine what crops are growing where which will give away a survival compound if you plan to survive because you will need to grow food after your supplies have exhausted / spoiled...

    The same technology that is used to pinpoint underground bunkers is also used to pinpoint Nuclear shelters...

    The same technology that is used to identify troop movements is used to identify vehicle tracks to and from such enclaves...

    The same technology that is used to identify ecological damage can be used to detect any exhaust emissions from such things as generators...

    And each technology is different, either using Infra-red, Ultraviolet, Standard radar, Deep Radar, Magnetic resonance

    If you live in the arctic, a pristine environment where pollution shows up like a neon light and even the snow will give you away particularly when you will have to grow your food in greenhouses that are easily identified both with infra-red, standard optics, and magnetic resonance....

    So how do you stop the satellites above from finding your location?

    I was told by one person that you put foil between your layers of concrete and it would deflect your heat signatures. I have a hard time accepting this answer?

    Even constant moving around from shelter to shelter can not avoid detection. Your food stores can be detected.

    Ssomeone out there knows the answer please help us find it. This is all about survival and nothing more.

  • #2
    ok went and read your other post which explains why you want to know this. still not gonna answer it all the way but the short answer is the foil will not help
    Last edited by Matt In Oklahoma; 02-29-2012, 07:20 PM.
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    • #3
      You can not run, you can not hide. Just live life everyday and worry about what can really effect you in the now. You have no control over SkyNet and the T1000's, besides.......I think it would take a ton more than some aluminum foil to shield that type of gadgetry
      You know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this?

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      • #4
        Just wait until the proposed deployment of 30,000 drones in US airspace gets cleared by the FAA to fly around spying on people.:)
        Who needs satellites?
        ***Note to self: time to buy stock in Reynolds Aluminum***
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        • #5
          Originally posted by rice paddy daddy View Post
          Just wait until the proposed deployment of 30,000 drones in US airspace gets cleared by the FAA to fly around spying on people.:)
          Who needs satellites?
          ***Note to self: time to buy stock in Reynolds Aluminum***
          Drones in the sky come in all sizes...





          so don't think they are big planes flying overhead, it may be that little bird or insect flying by.
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          • #6
            I read about this recently...they had one called the Maple Leaf. There is no telling what the folks at MIT and DARPA have already came up with.
            You know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this?

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            • #7
              I truely do not think I personally am important enough nor am I paranoid enough to think TPTB would be the least interested in me and my little garden.

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              • #8
                Ok... I just added "satellite-killing-raygun" to my list of needed preps. That sounds like it's gonna be expensive.

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                • #9
                  Your little garden isn't on thier list now , but imagine a few months/years of unrest and they are soaring around looking at things and your little homestead pops up . They go hmm thats doesn't look like the normal chaos/mayhem we have been seeing . We should go check it out , then WHAM you have troops at your front door talking about how they will/can help you , so let us look around to see how we can help you . Then it starts ! Your on their watch list , now they are stopping by regularly to keep tabs and to help you . Then they are talking about this great homestead in the barracks and how nice it is , then they are talking at home about how nice it is . Then they are talking in the bar about how great you have it and everytime the story gets bigger and bigger . Now after a few beers the drunks its in their heads feel they are entitle to what they deserve , even though you worked for and it takes off from there .

                  That is probably a long stretch , but having been around the block , once one person knows , you might as well take out a billboard . You would almost have to do your stuff all crazy and not as effecient to stay off the radar , let them look and go wow just another crazy hermit with tinfoil . Not sure how to do that . Maybe make your crops in non straight lines or something , or you could just grow your crops and let the outer few rows of crops just die and wither off , so people see dead crops and move on , no idea .

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                  • #10
                    I'm glad I'm 63, won't have to put up much longer with what has hapened to our country. I can remember when we actually had freedom and liberty.
                    Good thing my Remington 870 is a Super Magnum Express, might need the extra payload and reach of a 3 & 1/2" shell to reach those high flying drones, er, I mean ducks. Yes, that's it - ducks.
                    "There is nothing so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." Winston Churchill
                    Member: Veterans of Foreign Wars, Vietnam Veterans of America, American Legion, AMVETS, Society of the Fifth Infantry Division

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                    • #11
                      What? Y'all haven't heard of guerrilla gardening?

                      As far as the tin foil between layers of concrete blocking heat signatures....well, not if it is touching the concrete. Aluminum transfers heat very quickly.

                      Seriously, you'd be further ahead to direct your energies toward prepping rather than worrying about what a satellite can and can't see.
                      This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave. ~Elmer Davis

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                      • #12
                        drones, spy planes, and sattelites are finite resourses that are usually only tasked for important missions. unless your building a army in your back yard and have a few dozen tanks i don't think you should worry about them too much. i'll explain a little, sure a key hole sattelite can basicly see into your window and tell what your eating for dinner but that means it can only do that at that time. i doubt there are more then a hundred of these in orbit, could be wrong of course. the military is pretty strick on using resources like this, why watch a home or compound even during a government collapse while there are no doubt more important tasking for that bird at the moment.

                        i'll use an example from my experience, gps sattelites, probably hundreds of these guys in orbit but still it doesn't mean we can't get more then 2 of them sometimes on our daggers/bfts to triangulate our position. the world is a big place and one sattalite can only see so much stuff at one time, take into account its orbit and yea like i said wouldn't worry about it.

                        if you still want to try to mitigate this plant trees that grow really tall near your house and things you don't want people to see from the sky. thermals still can't see through trees. if you really want to prep you can use cammo netting, it will break up radar not sure about thermal though.

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                        • #13
                          Man! What am I going to do with all the aluminum foil I bought to wrap the house in?....chuckle...

                          I do not like the fact that our gov't. can now use drones over our own airspace. We're giving our liberties away quickly.
                          Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.

                          Ronald Wilson Reagan (1911-2004)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JUSTIFIED View Post
                            I do not like the fact that our gov't. can now use drones over our own airspace.
                            Not only did they decide to use them here they sold them so they could use them on us as well
                            Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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                            • #15
                              I think we have to guard against becoming so paranoid that we can't function day to day.

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