Can anyone verify this?

[Bearman202]

According to the new bill just passed, if you have guns, are missing fingers, or have more than a 7 day supply of food, you are a terrorist and can be arrested and sent TO ANOTHER COUNTRY without being charged. You will not have the right to an attorney, the right to remain silent, or the right to have proof submitted to substantiate a charge against you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cqepk2oK0P8

I was going to say ignore the last frame, but maybe we shouldn't? This is getting scary, folks. Oh, I should mention, John McCain was one of the sponsors of this POS bill.

[monkeybird]

Most of Pauls' statements are backed by Executive Orders, both Presidential and Gubernatorial. It's sad to say. The more laws you make, the more people you classify, the easier it is for people, who have no idea a law exists to break it. Once a law has been broken, the easier it is to place someone in custody.. Think about it. That's exactly how the government controls people.

I can think of hundreds of incidents in which people broke some obscure law no one had ever heard of and put in jail. A recent one in the man from Colorado, with a concealed carry permit, was arrested from having 2 disassembled and unloaded guns locked in his car trunk while he was traveling through NJ. http://www.bergencountycriminallawat...gal-guns.shtml

Or how about the zoning law that prevents people from growing a home garden in their back yard. I'm sure there is example after example of laws people never heard of being used to arrest citizens.

Along with propaganda and the indoctrination of children, making laws no one knows about is a time honored method used by governments to control it's people. The more laws, the more obscure they are, the easier it is to 'find' something to arrest someone you want to control. It's also puts fear into others, assuring compliance with the party line.

[VINCENT]

watching this literally cause acid reflux. i taste bile all the way up my throat as i sit hear and stare at my computer in what feels like hoplessness. we as a people literally have almost no say, or pull in our lives anymore. while our politicians claim this to be the freest nation on the planet, we are ruled through fear. seems like every time i turn around there is some new reason that we can lose our homes, our posessions, and even what little freedom we still have by ending up in prison for doing next to nothing. i'm not calling for rebellion, and infact its the last thing i would want to live through, but its begining to look like before to long we wont be america anymore unless the people rise up. i dont mean occupy wallstreet type BS, i mean violence and warfare. this is getting sad. i feel for my children

[Not_Yet_Prepped]

I feel for my children.

Well Said! I want nothing more in life, or this world, than for my daughter to have a bright future!

If we look back at our founders they made note of their children and grandchildren many times as the reason they were willing to go through what they went through. Many lost their lives and many lost so much more, all to secure the future for their descendents (us). They only raised arms when all other means had been tried and the British wanted to start taking their weapons... They knew with out the weapons they would never have hope of being free.

Today they try to take our weapons not in one quick step (they know better now) instead one little piece at a time… Just as they did it in England, in which by the way, guns are apparently not illegal to own, they are just hard to get approval for, all have to be registered, and to buy one you must have a valid reason (and apparently self-protection is not a valid reason). So to buy a shotgun for example you must be a duck hunter… And being a duck hunter means you already have a shotgun so you don’t need another one…??? Wait how do you get approval for an other gun?… Basically you don’t!

The pen is only mightier than the sword if the sword is there to support what is written by the pen. Example: Do you think a suite at the bank could take a farm from a good old country boy with a pen? NO, only if the banker has the “support of the sword” ie threat of a SWAT team taking the guy off to jail or maybe even killing him.

The “Freedom of Speech” has no weight unless it is backed by the “Right to Bear Arms”. A governing body does not care what is said by those being governed unless those being governed have avenues for recourse. Do not let them take our sword, because with out it, our pens and our voices are worthless.

[sabretech2001]

Everyone needs to be clear about this, and everything else that's either been put into place or might be coming down the pike: it's not about Democrat vs. Republican, Black vs. White, rich vs. poor.

It's about control.

Preppers, independent thinkers, or even your garden-variety curmudgeon is a threat to those who presume to control the population. As someone who is all three of the previous plus a Second Amendment supporter and activist, I've been smeared and belittled for years. Been banned from a bunch of websites, too.

I have set up both of my computers so that the hard drives can be quickly removed as well. You'd be well advised to do the same, or at the very least, literally put a bullet through them before you bug out. Otherwise, you'll find out you had an extensive collection of kiddy **** on your computer. At least that's what they'll claim. Killing/imprisoning you won't be enouigh; they will impugn you as well. That's how much a threat to them you are.

I've never been a fan of burying firearms, thinking that if it was time to bury them, it was time to use them. I'm starting to reconsider that.

[claymore]

I can't shake this. I've been called a lot of things but never terrorist. I swore to protect and defend the constitution along with a good portion of the rest of the people on this forum. Absurd!

[antishot]

My father and I were talking about this today plus all the other stuff going on. Man does he still have his blinders on. He told me that it wont get as bad as I think it will. I pulled the truck over and looked him in the eyes and said the jews didnt think it would get that bad but it did. then I told him he might just want to brush up on some history. Needless to say it was quiet for the rest of the ride.

[Not_Yet_Prepped]

the jews didnt think it would get that bad but it did. then I told him he might just want to brush up on some history.

Very True... Very few saw (or at least identified) what was going on until it was way too late. We (humans in general) have a tendency to not "see" what we don't want to accept.

I've been called a lot of things but never terrorist.

They started calling you a terrorist years ago actually... DHS put out a big report about it. And people who talked about the Constitution or the Founding Fathers (FEMA is now calling our Founding Fathers terrorist BTW), Support Ron Paul, and Returning Veterans were all labeled as potential terrorist... My question would be why?

Because those people (us) know the government has no legal authority to do what they are doing... And eventually we will try to be vocal enough about what is going on.. And when we get vocal enough to create problems for their agenda they will then unleash the "War on Terror" on us (the new "terrorist") because we believe in a Free Society.

FEMA trains police to think Founding Fathers were terrorist (and by proxy you because you believe in the founding fathers):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPg9MdN9Gio

News report about DHS calling veterans and constitution supporters the new terrorist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXRuuEpB-dQ

It's about control.

Sabretech has it exactly right... It is about power and control, most of the politicians are nothing more than "Front Men" or "Puppets"... Why do you think we get some so "Polar Opposite" of G.W. Bush was in the Oval Office, but nothing really reversed course rather it instead just starting moving faster. The majority of both parties are just puppets doing what the "Master Elite" want. We are talking about people with so much money and power that they OWN the bank, that lends the money to nations to spend. They even got the citizens to pay for it.

Ron Paul over 20 years ago talking about the Federal Reserve (the private bank):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_-bqaTvzIk&feature=related

FEMA training Police that Founders were Terrorist (and by proxy anyone that believes in the Founders are terrorist)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPg9MdN9Gio

They are trying to train the Police that we the citizens are against the police... I love our first responders.

POLICE... You are Citizens TOO and we love you like brothers... Please Go ahead and re-educate yourself. Please go read your "penal code(s)" and look into each term used in them. Please go re-read the Constitution and look up the history to see why it says what it says it.

We can not "Hen Peck" when/what to follow in the Constitution and bill of rights we must always follow them all and all of the time. You might say "But terrorist don't deserve those rights!"... really who are "terrorist" and are they not "people" too what part "that all men are created equal" does not apply to them (or us)?... Today the term terrorist means some guy in a cave thousands of miles away that some believe MAY have tried to kill some Americans, but who is tomorrow's terrorist? Your Neighbor (because he has 10 days of food stocked up), Your Brother (because he believes in the Constitution) or You (because you support Ron Paul)?... Everyone deserves the protection of Constitution and Bill of Rights, because if we start picking and choosing when to follow them, eventually no one will have their protection.

POLICE and Military (in light of the secret bill trying to be passed right now) Please visit oath keepers to learn more:

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/