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Probably about the time for a rotation into the middle east. Ignore the fact they aren't painted for the desert. About half or more of the vehicles over there don't sport any kind of desert paint job. I mean, it's kind of hard to conceal a 100 vehicle convoy from Ackmehd trying to set off IEDs, so the Army gave up on trying to paint vehicles every time they got sent to a place that's sandy and then repaint them when they returned.
And by far, rail is still the most efficient way of moving large amounts of military vehicles. Most Army posts still have rail lines and they use them to send their vehicles to a port where it's sent overseas. I would imagine they are heading for one of the west coast ports.Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.
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I knew of all folks, you would know something about this Grand.....I just know with the Internet being so broad, so many people have so much crap out there.....with their tinfoil toboggansYou know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this?
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Meh, common sense. I mean, more than just a few folks with cell phone cameras are going to see the troops starting to concentrate around the large urban areas and not in back country Oregon. And large urban areas will have to be secured first. Someone would have noticed it by now and passed it on.
Furthermore, those were almost all support vehicles. You don't start rolling in to secure urban areas without armor. That's a hard earned lesson from Iraq.
But it is interesting to see those huge trains loaded down like that.Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.
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2 months ago the 45th ID was inplaced in Afganistan and took over so the timing is about right for the other equipment to return on the boats. Also the National Guard and Reserve annual training exercises are winding down from the summer so that all the ones lured into it by the GI bill can get back to college. I got a similar e-mail from a guy the other day. The amazing thing is he was a 20 yr full time and reservist retiree. I had to tell him the same and to pull off the tin foil too. I think the heat is getting to folks.
BTW rail operations are not that fun to do.Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence
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I read a similar post on http://www.shtfplan.com/ and at first considered it sensationalism. How do you know what is real and what is simply paranoid hype. I ask myself how such a massive transport could occur without someone reporting it on one of the 24 hours new channels? On the other hand, a part of me believes it might be true.
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I only saw one picture of a Stryker with the howitzer mounted THREE TIMES ... Same Stryker !
I saw a disproportionate number of ambulances ... perhaps "one in ten" (or 20) ...
I did not see ANY bull-dozers ...
I did not see a single MBT (tank) ... no tracked vehicles of any sort.
I did not see *ANY* MRAPs, of any sort ... NO IED hardenned vehicles ... not one.
All the larger (flatbed) haulers were empty.
There were not nearly enough ISO containers to indicate an active operation.
Prolly 80% were some "utility" config of Hummers ... *OLD* Hummers ... not hardenned.
NONE of the hummers was in "Technical Config" (no turrets or targeting sensors).
Lots of trailers ... especially fuel and/or water tanks.
Speculation?
These vehicles are (pick one):
1) Normal asset shuffling of National Guard basic utility assets.
2) Headed to Somalia, or Japan, as a form of humanitarian logistical assistance.
3) Older "junk" being sold to a friendly nation (like Austrailia).
4) These vehicles are headed for contract modernizattion upgrades.
5) These vehicles are to be canibalized to service newer vehicles.
6) May be a gift to the Nat'l police forces of Iraq or A-stan.
7) *might* be used to conquer some huge nazi militia (that is getting too big).
I choose "number one" ...
There is nothing in the PNW to "surpress" ... These assets are not supression oriented, anyway.
There is not nearly enough variety (of assets/supplies) to constitute even part of an active combat force.
These vehicles might (just maybe) have been re-positionned to deal with a potential strategic threat (Asian Jet-Stream), as the result of some intercepted strategic contingency plans, on the part of China. To provide aid to fallout victims, in the event of a "Dirty Jet-stream" attack, or some "ocean-nuke generated fallout (contingency).
I DOUBT IT VERY MUCH !!!
Looks like antiquated, non-combat, logistical traffic, to me ... maybe domestic, maybe bound for some other country.
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*IF* something "big" was up, we would be seeing lots of attendant ISO containers, dozers, sensor turrets, and fully loaded vehicles ... I am not seeing any of that. This is boring surplus hardware, looking for a better home ... period.
One look at the sponsor ads, on this website, tells it all ... let's foment as much anxiety, as possible !!!
This is not ONLY sensationalist propaganda ... It is really pathetic and desperately lame ... totally transparent ATTEMPT at propaganda, by lame 2nd tier media dunces, who can't get a real job.
Just my opinion ... It is a "junk train" ... nothing more ... That ONE Stryker, with the canon ? ...
... Prolly WAS just for training ... totally lonely orphan, statistically.
pathetic ... sorry, guys ... anyone want to buy some more silver coinage ?
Perhaps seismelogical prediction tech has come far enough to justify the movement of such assets, in advance of a seismic event ? ... Nahw !Last edited by Guest; 08-04-2011, 08:41 AM.
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AHAHHA....yeah these dudes that posted this swear to God that we are "weeks" away from being rounded up and placed in concentration camps.....but yet they aren't prepping, know nothing about survival and are a group of Atlanta protesters on the 9/11- Building 7 Movement...they have some interesting stuff sometimes so I continue to be in their facebook group....but aluminum foil futures are through the roof...lolYou know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this?
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although I agree that you all are correct about this post (situation). But my question is...Originally posted by monkeybird View PostI ask myself how such a massive transport could occur without someone reporting it on one of the 24 hours new channels?
What 24 hour news source would actually report on this? MSM is in bed with the communists running our once great nation, and Fox seems to be a day late, and a dollar short on most subjects (not REAL news anymore).If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
~James Madison
You will eat your Brocoli and like it, or I'll have to TAX you.
No more Big Gulps for you either!
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Ok, explained it the nice way, now:
SF and all them other tabbed folks can't even fart sideways without the news being all over them much less any major regular movements not being reported. Everytime we moved our unimportant unit some idjit was out there recording us wether it was by rail, ship or air. Shoot the press is embeded, you cant do nothing, even have a platoon meeting without them fools, you gotta throw them outta the building just to speak with your troops about day to day issues that dont need reporting.
Ok the Army is moving, last I heard they were on the side of Americans. My God man, these are part timers, friggen shoe salesmen and even folks on this website right now. They are doing their jobs, unless someone has something tangible the tinfoilhats need to get off them. If it wasnt for them tinfoils wouldnt be on any computer and folks would be speakin Chinese bout now and not on no HAMs neither! Be eatin rice alright but not outta mylar.
Didnt bust my behind, lose some of my hearing, get busted up, watch my men die, leave my family for extended periods, get friggen shot at and exploded on, recieve Dear John Letters for 20 to become the "badguy boogie man" for a bunch of fraidy cats!Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence
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OK ... I *finally* was able to (purely) *imagine* ONE (possible) domestic operation which this sort of equipment *might* be used for ...
... Marijuana growing operations, in the PNW National Parks and Reserves areas, have proliferated to the point that entire eco-systems are threatenned and many hikers and campers have been threatenned and intimidated ... so ...
... just maybe ... as logistical transport, for security and clearing operations, in those areas ... MAY-be ...
... *IF* you are looking for some "secret motive", ...
.... I still say it is just a "junk-train-to-nowhere" ... headed for parts salvage and scrap smelting.
Would YOU buy *any* of that crap? ... I would not take any of it, even if you gave it to me ... Artificial reef !
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Just moving equipment for one reason or another. Why prepare for population control, or whatever, in Oregon? Texas or Arizona would make more sense.
That being said. I once worked for a gentleman who believed in conspiracies, troop movements, FEMA camps, black helicopters and jet contrails. He owned a survivalist business.
The jet contrails supposedly contained some sort of chemicals. There were alot of pictures of contrails. I didn't put that much faith in any of this. I wasn't wearing any tin foil on my head. This was in 1997. About two months ago I see news reports that the government had been doing experiments that involved dropping chemicals through jet contrails.
I still don't wear foil hats, but I keep some foil handy.
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