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HV FN ES 73! http://skattagun.blogspot.com
"3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
--Spock
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The 32-year-old Norwegian man arrested for allegedly gunning down children on the holiday island of Utoya has been named locally as Anders Behring Breivik.
article which identifies the man as a Norwegian.
This APPEARS to be the guy, altough there's nothing on FB about him before July 17th.
something smells VERY FISHY about this, could be bc it's Norwegian....
...but
I have this info:
1. a Norwegian did this.
2. it was at a "Labour party" camp event, directed against a "labour government"
3. this FB profile page suggests that he is a Christian with conservative views.
4. This profile does not appear to have existed before a week ago.
also, someone said in another article "this may be closer to Norway's Oklahoma City Bombing than Norway's word trade center"
I kinda laughed at that a little bit.
oh, and here's some bullet points from the uk article above:
Norwegian media name arrested man as Anders Behring Breivik
Police searching his flat and believe he acted alone and not connected to Islamist organisations
Reports he was shot and wounded before arrest
1.30pm: Massive car bomb explosion kills at least seven in Oslo
3.30pm: Between 25 and 30 feared dead as man disguised as police officer opens fire on island youth meeting Norwegian prime minister was due to attend
Police confirm eight or nine dead on island after preliminary search
Eyewitnesses say bodies floating in the sea around the island
He arrived on island on boat owned by Norwegian Labour Party
Undetonated explosives found on Utoya island
Unknown group called 'Helpers of the Global Jihad' said to have posted message saying this is reaction to publication of Muhammed cartoons
Islands residents told not to reveal their location on Twitter or Facebook
British Foreign Minister William Hague condemns 'horrific' attack
Oslo Mayor: 'Wish I were on island to be shot instead of children'
Police believe the two attacks may be linked
Obama offers U.S. help with investigation and says it's a 'reminder that entire international community has stake in preventing this kind of terror'
Notice the last one?
how do we 'prevent this kind of terror'?
anyone else gettin' chills?
Last edited by qrprat77; 07-22-2011, 07:19 PM.
Reason: I'm a big fat jerk
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HV FN ES 73! http://skattagun.blogspot.com
"3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
--Spock
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Highlights from some of the stories about this on the web....
The gun man on the island fired for 1.5 hours before he was stopped.
Officials couldn't find a boat to get to the island. (Huh? the police don't have choppers in Norway?!?!?)
The average beat cop in Norway doesn't carry a gun.
Due to conflicting information on the shooter (called a fundamentalist Christian, anti-muslim, & nationalist) and my complete disregard for what mainstream media spoon feeds the masses, expecting "rightwing" screed... I did some looking into this guy myself. What I found was his video and "manifesto" on a "European Declaration of Independence."
This guy is intelligent, disciplined and motivated, and he has been planning this action, and the supporting philosophical reasonings behind it, for years. Extremely meticulous and he documented the whole thing, even leading up to the explosives completion, even how he manufactured it. He describes the dangers of multiculturalism and the conflict between cultures that is coming, primarily in Europe, but the US is mentioned as well. It is a very long read, full of documentation and references, and I only skimmed through it...
But I still don't understand why he targeted the people he targeted. He said he hopes his actions will be the catalyst to ignite a European fight against muslim invaders and multiculturalism, but he targeted KIDS at a camp? WTF? I can somewhat understand his reasons for the bombing of the political building, as all revolutionaries do the same thing, target the gov't, of which I think is a flawed strategy, but go on a shooting rampage killing kids of a political party he obviously hates? He often refers to the US Founding Fathers, but I do not see them doing what he did... They directly attacked British forces, not their kids and families... So I am at a loss to explain his secondary targets...
One thing is for sure, this guy did not just pull his targets out of his arse, rather he methodically and meticuously chose them. But I cannot grasp why the summer camp of kids? And I doubt we will hear the reasons on the media, unless it is mentioned in court testimony. I am sure he is planning on using his arrest and coming trial as a sounding board for his goals and intentions. But I suspect such testimony may be "sealed"...
He has taken the "best" (worst) of things such as OKC Bombing, school attacks such as Belsan and Virginia Tech and combined them to gain the game changing attention he wanted. His mission was succesful in that sense. Losing 80+ kids on a 90 minute shooting spree even has me and my family talking. Dead kids sparks outrage even among criminals and makes folks think.
Put my rifle in the car on a short trip today. My teen daughter asks "why"? She struggles to understand dad cause i'm different, i say "cause this aint Mumbai or Norway" and like Uncle Ted says "you can't do this in France":). She says "you can't get to it". I say, "my and her brothers pistols and spare ammo say different and that one of us can get to it".
I tried to make her understand I can't/won't wait, I will do what I do should something happen, it's just the way I'm geared. I did make her understand that we also don't place our lives in others hands entirely and that you must take action. She understood this and has a real good concept of "how to"
If nothing else this short conversation was something positive on the untimely and sad deaths of those children.
Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence
With more reading, I am discovering why he chose the camp... It seems that camp is a "training ground" for the leftist labor party (firmly in power) future leaders and Anders Bering B. wanted to take the "war" to his political enemies rather than the "general public" that usually bears the brunt of any offensive...
Well Rmpl, that pretty much hangs my theory that this guy was some manner of false flag. Good research sir! it does indeed appear that we live in interesting times.
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HV FN ES 73! http://skattagun.blogspot.com
"3. you cannot count on your adversary sucking. to do so invites disaster."
--Spock
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I tried to make her understand I can't/won't wait, I will do what I do should something happen, it's just the way I'm geared. I did make her understand that we also don't place our lives in others hands entirely and that you must take action. She understood this and has a real good concept of "how to".
That's why I started my kids shooting when younger and now my whole family carrys legally and daily and they qualify often.
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